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Text 35050, 107 rader
Skriven 2016-07-27 02:17:13 av Lee Lofaso (2:203/2)
  Kommentar till text 34883 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Echolist Abuse
======================
Hello Michiel,

 MvdV>>> I am aware that Ross is e-listed as the moderator of Fidonews.

 MvdV>>> I still have only your word that he abused the listing to
 MvdV>>> authorise a feed cut for Tim.

 LL>> I posted Ross' comments to Tim the other day on the subject.
 LL>> I'll repost them again, for your benefit -

 MvdV> But as I have no access to the original message, all i ahve is hearsay.

All Politics echo, 7/16/2016, Ross Cassell to Tim Richardson

 MvdV> I can not verify if you quoted correctly.

Yes, you can.  You may not want to, but you can.

 MvdV> I am also missing the context.

Open admission by Ross Cassell that he asked Ed Koon to curtail
Tim Richardson's access to the Fidonews.  That was the stated
reason, not any other BS.

 MvdV> You may have quoted out of contect.

Ross wrote what he wrote.  In very clear English.

 MvdV> Plus that I do not see in what you quoted if Ross actually asked with
his
 MvdV> hat as listed moderator, or just as a private individual.

Irrelevant.  Ross Cassell is not the moderator of the Fidonews.
As such, he has no legitimate authority to ask any sysop to curtail
the access of any participant to the Fidonews.

 MvdV> The thing is Lee, of the three NAB culprits that committed the Fidonews
 MvdV> coup, Ross is the only one to publically admit that it was wrong. As
such I
 MvdV> am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

The continued actions of Ross Cassell shows his own hypocrisy.
Notice how he continues to hold onto that fake echotag of his.
If Ross Cassell was truly sincere, he would have ditched his
claim long ago and publicly apologized to Björn Felten for what
he had done, along with all who he had kept from being able to
participate in this echo.

 MvdV> You do not have to convince me thatthe echolist is abused.

We all know the echolist is not accurate.  We all know the echolist
has been, and continues to be, abused.  We also know there is no need
to even have an echolist.  In fact, more the reason to ditch it and
not ever to use another one in the future.

 MvdV> I alreday know that.

I would certainly hope so.

 MvdV> But in this particular case, you fail to convince me.

What convinces you that Ross Cassell is the editor/moderator
of the Fidonews?  I have seen absolutely no proof from anybody
on that score.  Not even from Ross Cassell himself.

 MvdV> Come with more solid proof.

Björn Felten is the editor/moderator of the Fidonews, having
been appointed to the position by his predecessor, Frank Vest.

Is that proof enough?

 LL>> Please do learn to connect the dots.

 MvdV> I am gifted with the power of deduction.

Is that all?  I use both the powers of induction and deduction.
Along with a few other things of note.

 MvdV> I know how to connect dots.

Only in very limited ways.

 MvdV> But I am also a sceptic.

Not a very good one.

 MvdV> I am reluctant to fill in when dots are missing.

Sometimes you have to fill in the blanks.

 MvdV> There are dots missing in your story.

No thief is stupid enough to say he stole the candy.

 LL>> Others have.

 MvdV> The others may have been more prepared to be led by prejudice than by
 MvdV> verifiable facts.

The only verifiable fact of importance is Ross Cassell is not
the moderator of the Fidonews.  In other words, he is a faker.

--Lee

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