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The International Echolist FAQ
01 SEPTEMEBER 2004 ELFAQ409.TXT
|| Notes new or modified information
The Echobase Echolist Robot
Submissions can be made
Via Netmail Via Email
echolist 1:1/21 firstname.lastname@example.org
The Echolist Keeper
Thom LaCosta 1:261/1550 email@example.com
The echolist is copywritten by Thom LaCosta.
The Echolist Robot is maintained by Thom LaCosta(1:261/1550,
The Robot is listed in the Fido Nodelist as Echolist 1:1/21
DISTRUPTION OF RESPONSES/WARNINGS TO MODERATORS
Recent tests indicate that there are no known problems with
routed netmail from the robot to moderators.
To insure that robot can send email responses, it is ESSENTIAL
that all emails to firstname.lastname@example.org have the first line in
the body of the message contain:
The Echolist Robot can respond to queries and return information
to the submitting netmail or email address. Please see
ECHOBASE.QUE for details.
THIRD PARTY UPDATES
Moderators wishing to use the service of third parties to submit
MOD UPD, MOD DEL and MOD RULE messages must notify the Echolist
Keeper of their intention to use third parties. The Echolist
Keeper may hold update messages from third parties if there is
no confirmation message from the moderator.
Third party submissions MUST be from the address of the updater.
IDENTIFICATION OF MODERATOR
All moderator entries in the Echolist database MUST include, as a
minimum, the name of the moderator and either a Fido Style address
and/or an email address. The moderator name can be a person's
name, or in "official" echoes, the position name of the moderator
(examples: Echolist Keeper, RC13).
Terms such as Trustee, Custodian, Emeritus, etc. are not proper
names, and therefore can not be listed in the moderator dataline.
These descriptions may be used in a DESC line.
MODIFICATIONS OF LISTINGS BY ECHOLIST KEEPER
The Echolist Keeper reserves the right to modify information in
the Echolist database if in the opinion of the Echolist Keeper,
the information is inaccurate, in question, or not in concert
with the published Echolist Documents.
In such instances the Echolist Keeper will make resonable efforts
to contact the moderator(s) of such echoes to discuss the
The Echolist Keeper may indicate in the Echolist that a particular
listing has been modified or enter other information that reflects
the nature of the changed listing.
The reasons for rejection of update messages are listed below, with
the most common appearing first:
1. Incorrect Abbreviations - While most abbreviations used with the
Echolist Robot are accepted, the major difference is the
TITLE of the echo. The Echobase Robot expects an abbreviation of
TITL, rather than TIT .
2. Insufficient information -
PASSword and DESC are the minimum requirements.
3. Incorrect address for Robot - ECHOLIST, ECHOBASE are the only
"names" that the Echobase Robot recognizes at 1:1/21
4. Incorrect Moderator Address -
The correct format for moderator information is
moderator name, fidonet node number, email address
While moderator name is madatory, an entry may have a netmail
address only, or an email address only, but it must have one
of those addresses.
5. Incorrect From Address -
The Echolist Robot senses the AT in a from address and makes
the assumption that it is an email address. Do NOT use a
From: nodenumber AT fidonet, since that is an incomplete email
||If the from address is email@example.com or firstname.lastname@example.org,
||you must insure that a gateway system is available to deliver the
6. NOTE: Do NOT use email addresses in the form of your.name AT 1:261/1352
The Robot will not process the message.
7. REJECTING MAIL ORIGINATED BY THE ECHOLIST ROBOT
Messages from addresses that automatically reject mail from the Echolist
Robot due to configuration on that end and/or mis-identification of
Echolist Robot messages, domain names and/or IP addresses will not
be processed until the system causing these problems contacts the
Echolist Keeper and indicates that problems have been rectified. Any
lost of listing due to the these problems is the responsibility of the
8. Other Causes for rejection -
The Echolist Keeper reserves the right to delete and/or
refuse listings if, in the sole opinion of the Echolist
Keeper, the message origin does not agree with the sending
address of the updater.
The echolist web site has been moved to:
Visitors to previous sites are redirected to the address above.
Visitors to the Echolist web site can now submit MOD UPD, MOD DEL,
MOD RUL and ECHO QUERY messages to the echolist robot via a
The GROUP keyword may be used to identify which Fido Zone or
Network the moderator wishes. For FidoNet the group keywords
may be used as follows:
FID1 - Zone 1 FID2 - Zone 2 FID3 - Zone 3
FID4 - Zone 4 FID5 - Zone 5 FID6 - Zone 6
FIDO - All Zones
Note: The GROUP keyword has a maximum length of 4 characters
The echolist Robot now uses email@example.com for
submissions and queries.
The ISP that provides service for the Echolist may,
in certain circumstances, reject mail from dial up
connections with dynamic domain names.
In some instances the echolist robot does NOT process multiple
messages from the same moderator correctly. It is STRONGLY
suggested that moderators send a MOD QUERY message to the robot
to ascertain the correctness of their listing(s).
RULES SUBMISSIONS - IMPORTANT CHANGE
To insure proper submission of rules files, the rules text MUST
be incorporated in the body of the message to the Echolist Robot,
rather than as a file attachment. The message should be
subject: MOD RUL
The text of the message MUST begin with:
RULEText Rules for area the_tag_name
Text line of Rules
next line of rule
NOTE: The ECHOMOD application produces the MOD RUL messages in
the proper format.
RULES FILES VIA INTERNET
Rules files may be submitted to the Echolist Robot as a
standard MOD RUL message.
Please insure that there are NO extra spaces or tabs between the
keyword and the text in your submission messages. The robot will
NOT process them.
The ECHOLIST echo is now a Read-Only Area. It is reserved for
announcements from the Robot or the Echolist Keeper. Discussions
and questions can be posted in the ELIST echo.
The echolist is designed to publish current information relative
to echo conferences as provided by moderators. Moderators are
urged to submit information for inclusion in the Echolist
The intent of the Echolist is to provide information submitted
by moderators about echoes for which they have responsibility.
EXPIRATION WARNING MESSAGES
Expiration Warning messages are generated on a monthly basis.
They are netmailed to the address shown for the moderator if the
last updated field in the database is 150 or more days older than
the system date when the function is invoked. A list of
conferences for which warning messages have been generated is
posted in the Fido ECHOLIST and ELIST echoes, and such other
echoes as the Echolist Keeper feels will provide wide coverage.
The following information details changes to the echobase software
and other items of interest to Echolist users.
NON FIDO(OTHERNETS SUBMISSIONS)
The Echobase Robot accepts submissions from non-Fido addressed
moderators. The response messages are placed on hold at
1:261/1352 Messages on hold will be held for a maximum of 2
weeks. Moderators from Othernets are responsible for polling
to get their confirmation messages.
SUBMISSIONS VIA EMAIL
The Echobase Robot and a companion application authored by
Thom LaCosta process incoming email messages sent to
firstname.lastname@example.org, a gateway system hosted by 1:261/1352
The email messages should be in the form of a netmail submitted
message, with the requirement that the first line of the
email text body contains
TAG the echotag
The remainder of the lines can be in any order.
A sample submission message is included in ECHOBASE.HLP
Echo announcements from the Echobase Robot are presently posted
in the ECHOLIST echo. Discussions pertaining to the Echolist
and the software in use may be made in ELIST.
A companion application, designed to assist in automating
moderator submissions to the Echolist Robot at 1:1/21, and other
robots using the same submission criteria is available for File
Request at 1:261/1352 with the magic name of ECHOMOD.
The file can also be acquired via the Internet at
WORLD WIDE WEB
A webpage specializing in the Robot and associated matters may be
accessed at http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/
Visitors may download EMOD331.ZIP, ECHOHELP.ZIP and view sample
Echolists in HTML format, a sample .na file, and view a help file
designed for moderators wishing to make submissions to the
Echobase Robot. The web page is updated with each publication of
For the convenience of moderators, the help file is included in the
distribution of the Echolist.
Questions about the echolist, echotags, lost passwords, missing
moderators and disputes should be addressed to the Echolist
Keeper, Thom LaCosta 1:261/1550 or via email to
DATE SENSITIVE MATERIAL
CHANGE IN EMAIL ADDRESSES
In June, 2004 the echolist email address was changed to
email@example.com and the email of the Echolist Keeper is now
SOME BAD DATES IN JANUARY 2003
Due to a hardware error, the Echolist Robot was using dates in
2002 instead of 2003 from January 3, 2003 through January 10, 2003.
Between MODerator UPDates resubmitted and editing of the database,
it appears that all information in the database is correct.
Echoes deleted and relisted by other than the moderator are subject
to return to the original moderator if deemed appropriate by the
ECHOLIST HISTORY FILE RESTORED
The history file used to produce various Echolist Reports was
restored for the July, 2002 issue.
ECHOLIST HISTORY FILE CORRUPT - April, 2002
The history file used to produce various Echolist reports was
corrupted sometime in the first week or April, 2002. Thus, many
of the monthly reports are missing. Please consult the master
Echolist which contains accurate information
ECHOLIST SYSTEM CRASH
Subsequent to the the creation of the Echolist in October,
1:261/1352 suffered a TOTAL system crash. All MODerator UPDate,
MODerator DELete messages, ECHOlist QUERIES and rules
submissions that were submitted on or after October 1, 2001
(10/01/2001) were lost.
The ECHOLIST Database was last backed up on OCTOBER 30, 2001
(09/30/2001) when ELIST110.ZIP was created.
ECHOLIST SYSTEM RESUMES OPERATION
The Echolist system resumed operation on October 28, 2001
When the ECHOLIST system resumed operations on October 28, 2001
it received both netmail and email messages that were on hold
at the respective uplinks. These messages will be processed in
the month of DECEMBER, 2001.
It is important to note that many messages that were sent via
Crash Netmail and/or email may not be in either the database or
in the messages due to be processed.
Moderators who made submissions between October 1, 2001 and
October 28, 2001 are urged to resubmit their updates to 1:1/21
or via email to firstname.lastname@example.org
Affected moderators should also submit the response from the
Echolist Robot to them to the Echolist Keeper at 1:261/1352 or
||via email to echolist AT tlchost.net
Should a conflict in listings occur, the Echolist Keeper will
use message dates and confirmation messages as a tool to
determine the most correct updates.
Effective MAY, 2001 The Echolist has been renamed
The International Echolist to more accurately reflect the
international nature of its contents.
Thom LaCosta 1:261/1550
echolist AT fidonet.us
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