Text 35591, 97 rader
Skriven 2006-08-01 14:05:16 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
  Kommentar till text 35528 av Carol Shenkenberger (6:757/1)
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01 Aug 06 21:47, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Matt Bedynek:

 CS> *** Quoting Matt Bedynek from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

 CS>> current one is that he feels no one should type to Roy because his
 CS>> nodelisted number doesnt exist. Janis was quite plain that he hasnt
 CS>> been excommunicated, so in this echo there is no reason to not talk
 CS>> with him.

 CS>> His access number will get settled eventually.  Give it time to work
 CS>> out, one way or another.  I can see from your own comments that you
 CS>> dont think we should stop talking with Roy either, at least here
 CS>> ('raising the bar on what shouldnt be allowed').

 MB>> Carol, I appreciate your comments but you seem to be missing much of
 MB>> t facts or simply chose not to acknowledge them.  Perhaps a mail
 MB>> glitch

 CS> As I've said already here but you may have missed.  I'm title
 CS> scanning due to too high of a traffic load.

 MB>> If Roy had stated he was attempting to resolve the issue I would
 MB>> hold a much different opinion.  However, Roy made it perfectly clear
 MB>> he has

 CS> Perhaps interpretation.  He contacted you.  He did so with a net
 CS> segment that doesnt exist and with not enough contact info for the
 CS> nodes to know they exist, but he's at least made some level of
 CS> approach.

Note that Matt no longer has a listed phone number as an RC nor a mail
mover. He's now in the same class with Al Robre and Brenda Donovan and
their regions are slowly dying, while those regions with listed phones in
*C positions seem to be stable and/or growing. I submitted my choice of
nets, since he's obviously not going to issue a RIN, and have CC'd to you
and the NC a net in South Texas. I had to route it to all of you. How much
do you want to bet that it goes un-answered by either the RC or NC?

 MB>> he contact his RC (me) after dropping 1/22 from the nodelist and his
 MB>> r was "fuck matt".  He makes posts in this echo and fn_sysop
 MB>> claiming to

 CS> Since i recall messages from you that were not exactly 'friendly',
 CS> this suprises you?  He did contact you though.  Now, it's between you
 CS> two to work it out.

 MB>> it clear a RI node number was available if he encountered any
 MB>> problems

 CS> Sorry, last I recall, you were refusing to give him a RIN until he
 CS> did some hoop jumping.

My impression, even after he stated it was 'available'...

 MB>> If there is ever a Net 387 he will never be its NC.  I could never
 MB>> tru someone who flatly states in words by action that they will
 MB>> never comp

 CS> Your choice as RC but if he's really got some nodes, you are losing
 CS> out there. I dont know that he does, but I suggested he have them
 CS> email you so you could check it out.

He's out of luck...all but one has reconsidered because of Matt's attitude
and I'll feed him as a point or turn him over to someone else, outside of
R19.

 MB>> I absolutely refuse to believe you are so naive that you cannot see
 MB>> th this charade.  Or, why you are so apologetic for an adult male
 MB>> who app to have control of his mental faculities.  Maybe you are the
 MB>> nicest pe on the planet?   Never in the history of Fidonet have so
 MB>> many been so accomodating.  The excuses have run out.  You are not
 MB>> simply "being fl or "being nice"; instead, you appear condone the
 MB>> actions of someone wh states they will unequivocably act in defiance
 MB>> of policy -and- norm.

 CS> Matt, I didnt deserve that diatribe.  The fact is many want him
 CS> driven out of fidonet.  You are one of those people apparently?  I am
 CS> not.

Matt can't handle the heat when it's applied by those he thinks are his
subordinates. He's an example of how Fidonet's *Cs have ruined the
network.

 CS> The best solution here is for you to work with him to get relisted
 CS> someplace because to do other when he's obviously capable, makes you
 CS> look more than a little stubborn. A guy who can send you a nodestub,
 CS> obviously should be found a home.  We are too small to play games
 CS> about things like that.
 CS>                                        xxcarol

Contrary to the Dossche's statement that I'm not obliged to you, I thank
you for sticking with it.


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