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Skriven 2011-10-28 00:20:01 av Richard Webb (1:116/901.0)
  Kommentar till text 22675 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
Ärende: FidoNews Vol. 28 No. 43 Editorial
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Hi Janis,

On Thu 2011-Oct-27 18:34, Janis Kracht (1:261/38) wrote to Richard Webb:

JK> My son got a kick out of my telling him that folks in the facebook
JK> fidonet group were looking for ways to download and upload those web
JK> forum messages.. he got a little upset even haha.. 'What would they
JK> want that for??' hahaha.. he just doesn't realize that for so many
JK> people, once you get bit by the fidonet 'bug', it doesn't leave you
JK> .. and when you've been away for a while, and you find a way to come
JK> back, you'd like it work somewhat in a way you're used to, that's
JK> all.

YEah, I might want to use my reader while I'm not connected, and i want to
follow the threads quickly and easily.  That's even if I"ve got the always on
broadband, I want it local to me, with the threads I want to look at right
there, so that
if the network crumps I"ve still got what I want to look at, save or discard. 
Different way of working I guess, and, as
you say, I got used to having that sort of flexibility, from my first
experiences with qwk readers on forward.

>  The only one I used
> to participate in when I had access before Katrina was
> Prosoundweb and their threading wasn't existent at all.
>That was a roll on the floor and bang head experience that
I put myself through
<snip>
> IT was just so clunky to use, especially using a
> screen reader <grumble>.

JK> ah I can understand that ..

Indeed, and saving the content I wanted for later reference
... <grrrrumble>>> major grumble.


<snip again>
JK> Specializing kind of?

INdeed, lots of specialization within amateur radio.  sOme
folks dabble in two or three specializations, the fast scan
tv (like you watch on your set) guys, the digital guys, the
fm repeater maintainers/builders, the old code heads, etc.
tOns of specialization actually.  That's partly why I tell
the new guys who get involved and then grumble that they
just can't retain an interest that they're not looking hard
enough.  There's something for almost everybody, even if all you want to do is
push your microphone button and have
somebody to chat with <g>.

> YEs the licensing is supposed to test you on a smattering of knowledge in all
> the basics, but it's very basic to all the
>various facets.  What you actually get at the entry level is truly a learner's
> permit.

JK> Makes sense.. I can understand why it can only cover the basics. 

Indeed, and as you advance in license class you get more
privileges, but you're still getting just a smattering of
knowledge in the various facets, and it's up to you to go
out and really seek the specialized knowledge that goes
along with your interests.

<snip>
JK> We have the tutorials.. we have the people with experience.. we have
JK> the 'old salts' <grin>.. we need to keep young people interested and
JK> writing code.. :) 

YEp, but there are still a few out there.  IT's just keeping them motivated and
interested.

>>>> I have to admit though, I did love Richard's line about
>>>> Scotty's transporter :) :) :)
<snip>
>>I can see it now, as it's trying to put the guy's lower half together it goes
>> blue screen <g>.

>> No no!  We don't want to see that splat :) :)

> <rotfl>  YEah I can see it now.  I'm even leery of the car
> that drives itself though should it come to pass.  IT would
> appear on the surface to be a boon to somebody like me, but
> I want that human judgment call when it's necessary.

JK> hahahahaha Me too :) :)  Not that I don't trust some else's
JK> judgement about what's good for technology buuuttttt.... <grin>

That's part of my thing, I don't mind surrendering myself to technology, I just
really want an understanding of it.  I
recall explaining to Kathy once, because she really wanted
to understand how it is that microwaves cook her food.

> IF the self propelled
> self driven vehicle working with the aware
> smart net which routes traffic ever crumps I want it to come to a screeching
> halt at the first safe opportunity and do
> nothing!  Also, if it's going to be self directed vehicles
> as part of a smart network, that means I don't want grandpa
> in his old RAmbler as part of it, I want everything to be
> plugged into said network so that when the network crumps
> because it can't reconcile its data everything comes to a
> halt right here, right now!!!

JK> Yeah.. automatic shutdown failsafe-immediate-stop-bigRed-Button! 

Gotta have it!!!  OTherwise it's not safe.  Either the
humans with free will have to be in control, or the smart
net has total control, and the fail safe.  One or t'other,
but not both!!!
Ah, speaking of trek... have you read Alan D. Foster's STar
Trek?  DOn't have an isbn or other numerology for you, it's
published by POcket BOoks.
Just finished it in braille.


Regards,
           Richard
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