Text 28213, 92 rader
Skriven 2012-04-22 10:27:47 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
  Kommentar till text 28111 av Richard Webb (1:116/901.0)
Ärende: TZUTC Kludge
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20 Apr 12 02:13, Richard Webb wrote to Roy Witt:

 RW>> Guess they needed something to bitch and moan about.

 Roy>> Probably.

 RW> YEah I guess.  I could find other things to complain about
 RW> on usenet, but then I read for content that's worth reading
 RW> anyway <g>.

That's the trick; finding something that has content worth reading.

I subscribe to Ham_Antennas on Yahoo and find that almost all of it has
nothing to do with antennas...that really sucks.

 RW>> This computer clock is also set to utc.  That's for a
 RW>> variety of reasons, partially waht I do with ham radio.  I
 RW>> haven't set computer clocks to anything but utc voer almost
 RW>> 2 decades.

 Roy>> I've used both local and UTC off and on over the years.

 RW> I don't think I've ever bothered to set my computer clocks
 RW> to anything but utc.

 RW>> Right, can see where it would be.  I just ask a friend with
 RW>> a dx map, or if I should need it, consult the nodelist to
 RW>> see when zmh is for that zone.

 Roy>> That was the confusing part for me. When it's ZMH in Europe and I'm
 Roy>> using a CST clock, what time is ZMH in Europe in CST time? Seven
 Roy>> hours ago or seven hours from now? To hell with it, set the clock
 Roy>> at UTC and be done with all that figuring.

 RW> YEah can relate, I never had a problem though. Add 6 hours
 RW> to cst, 5 to cdt.  Just one of those habits I got into even
 RW> before computers.

OTH, I used local time (PST) to log CW sessions as a Novice, back in the
mid-70s...

 RW>> Still it ensures than when I post a vessel to shiptrak the
 RW>> time stamp is consistent with others who use the web
 RW>> interface instead of the email interface which I use.

 Roy>> I use the web interface to update the PC, but my CST analog clock
 Roy>> is 3 minutes slow and needs a reset. One of these days.

 RW> I use the NIST, formerly nBS clock, same one drives WWV in
 RW> Colorado, dial it with my modem 3 times a week.

I installed an automatic time update software some years ago. If I
remember correctly, it uses the USNO (Colorado) for a source.

 RW>>> I see. None of my email recipients have complained about the time
 RW>>> stamp in my emails. They probably don't pay any attention to that
 RW>>> info anyway. As for local users, all they need to know is the local
 RW>>> time on their own computers. I don't see much of a conflict there.

 RW>> I've had email recipients over the years complain about
 RW>> funny timestamps.  i explain it to 'em and then tell them I
 RW>> have no intention of setting the pc clock to local time.
 RW>> UTC works.

 RW>> Yes, it does.

 RW> I never had a problem with it, keeps life simple.

 RW>> NOw if TImEd would just use the tzutc kludge without me
 RW>> having to do it manually.  tz is set for my tic processor
 RW>> and maximus so tz environment variable is used here, but I
 RW>> just have a little text file that I can use to paste it into
 RW>> outgoing messages from here.  Ads an extra step, but only takes a
 RW>> second or two.

 Roy>> Kludges...

 RW> Hunting through docs for timed, nothing yet, so we just do
 RW> the cut and paste thing.  It works.

When all else fails...


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