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Skriven 2012-05-21 10:41:17 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
Ärende: Janis defintions...
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Hello Roy,

On Thursday May 17 2012 08:57, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>> Sorry, the hard coded link between Fidonews and 1:1/1 has been
 MvdV>> set aside looong ago by the precedent set by TJ himself when he
 MvdV>> changed the editor's node number to 1:1/23.

 RW> Sorry, but due to the many loud whines he made in that regard, he was
 RW> coddled as editor so that he'd continue in the job capacity until such
 RW> time as he could be replaced or left Fidonet, whichever came first. He
 RW> already  had one foot out the door when policy 4.07 came along and he
 RW> also bitched about that as well.

Irrelevant. We all know TJ's "P4 is a smelly crock of shit". We also know he
left Fidonet.

 RW>  He was basically ignored in regards to everything he bitched about.

That does not nullify the precedent that the FidoNews Editor is not nesecarely
listed as 1:1/1.

Also, 1:1/1 was not uniquely reserved for the Fidonews editor. Others have
carried that AKA as well:

Nodelist 337 of 1993:

Zone,1,North_America,Surrey_BC,Bob_Satti,1-604-589-8562,9600,CM,XA,H14,V42b
,1,Dead_Mail_&_FNews_Relay,New_Westminster_BC,Geno_DellaMattia,1-604-540-9598,9
600,H16,V32b,V42b,XA,CM
,2,Europe_Gate,Portland_OR,R_Bush,1-503-297-9145,9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,LO
,3,Oceania_Gate,Portland_OR,R_Bush,1-503-297-9145,9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,LO
,4,Latin_America_Gate,Portland_OR,R_Bush,1-503-297-9145,9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,LO
,5,Africa_Gate,Portland_OR,R_Bush,1-503-297-9145,9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,LO
,6,Asia_Gate,Portland_OR,R_Bush,1-503-297-9145,9600,CM,XA,V32b,V42b,LO
,20,Fido_Tech_Stand,Relay_System,David_Nugent,1-604-589-8561,9600,CM,XA,H16,V32
b,V42b
,23,FidoNews,FidoNews_Editor,Editor,1-519-570-4176,9600,CM,XX,HST,V32,V42b

Nodelist 364 of 2000:

Zone,1,North_America,Rochester_NY,David_Moufarrege,1-716-359-0871,33600,CM,XX,V
32b,V42b,V34,ITX:transx@rochester.rr.com
,1,Zone_1_Echomail_Coordinator,Alexandria_VA,Jim_Balcom,1-703-765-1751,9600,V32
b,V42b,MO,CM,XA,VFC

 MvdV>> Since then the precedent had been confirmed by many successors
 MvdV>> using 1:1/23 or numbers in other zones.

 RW> But of course, not per policy,

P4 was written by Americans for Americans and can therefore be ignored by non
Americans.

 RW>  therefore it can be ignored by any subsequent *C.

Who in turn can themselves be ignored.

 MvdV>> If you figured 2:2/2 can not be the editor's node number, you
 MvdV>> should have spoken up ten years ago when Frank Vest appointed
 MvdV>> Björn Felten as his successor and he got 2:2/2.

 RW> I did! But I was merely one voice among many who were all for
 RW> violating policy.

So you were outvoted and ignored. Just as I will do now.

 MvdV>> She has an obligation to make Fdonews available. As have the
 MvdV>> RCs.

 RW> You can get a copy from her BBS. Its also available on her website.

Only her own hijacked version. Not the official version as issued by the editor
appointed by his predecssor.

 RW> Dunno about the other two, but I would imagine that they also carry it
 RW> for their own downlinks. Now you'll bitch because the copies available
 RW> have content,

Irrelevant, it is still a pirated version.

 RW> ... besides, IMNSHO, Ward Dossche should resign as ZC2

Since it is none of your business, your NSHO is ignored.


Cheers, Michiel

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