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Text 1500, 97 rader
Skriven 2012-07-29 20:27:24 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
     Kommentar till en text av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Ward's Z1 node number
=============================
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Robert Bashe on Sunday July 29 2012 at 13:44:

MV>>> It was not me who "let the cat out of the bag". Janis did that.

RB>> When? I read nothing about it until you wrote.

MV> Find a decent link that does not censor messages...

I have one, but the message (without your deletions) looks a bit different:

=== Cut ===
= FIDONEWS (2:2448/44) ========================================================
 Msg  : 280 of 500
 From : Janis Kracht                        1:261/38        Thu 26 Jul 12 09:08
 To   : Michiel van der Vlist
 Subj : daja vu (was: .fidonet)
===============================================================================
Hello Michiel,

>> at least janis admitted the problem when she had tome to catch up and
>> read the posts about it... she stated the corrective actions she
>> took...

> No, she did not admit the problem, she gave a bogus explanation that
> does not
> hold water.

Ok, then you tell me how I can prohibit one single node from having his mail
seen  by his own system then.. because I'd love to apply it to _your_ system.
You lie constantly about so many things.  The only thing that was done here was
the flag left in place accidentally for Kim's system making it read-only.  I
removed it when I checked the config for his node, after reading comments here
when I had a break during the Cooking Echo Picnic this weekend.

#1) I wouldn't doubt someone like YOU prevented Torbjorn's messages from
getting out just to stir up trouble.

#2) Look at the nodelist debacle,  and your part in that Michiel.. weren't you
were right there in that echo overseas pushing Ward to do it?

#3) And aren't you now pushing him to get a Z1 node number by asking what's new
with getting one here in Z1 while he's in Montana?

>If Kim was accidentally set to read-only, it would not have stopped
>Torbjorn's
> message from reaching him. The read-only works the other way around. It
> would
> have stopped Kim's messages from reaching the rest of the world.
> It does not add up.

If the node is set to read-only, then it doesn't import any traffic into the
echo you very silly man.

Take care,
Janis

-+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)

=== Cut ===

It looks like YOU were pressuring Ward to apply for a Z1 node number. May I ask
for what reason?

MV> No Bob we  do not think you are part and parcel of everything
MV> happening in Z1. But you are siding up with them every time and as
MV> Ward already told you, you are being used.

If so, certainly no worse than I was used by Ward and you. As for taking sides,
I've told you again and again that I try not to do that - but that doesn't mean
I have no opinion, nor does it mean that I'll cry "yes! and amen!" to
everything you and Ward dream up merely because I know you personally. You
apparently consider a "neutral" stance to be one where the person agrees with
everything you and your friends write, and damns everone who disagrees. That's
not my idea of "neutral", and I fear you'll have to get used to that.

MV> That is what you think. The real reason is that because you always
MV> side with Z1, they think you can be of use.

Naturally I do NOT "always" side with Z1, whoever that is supposed to be. And
as far as being "of use" to anyone, I'm of use to myself and nobody else.

Perhaps it doesn't bother you to be used by Ward, but it did me. And the fact
that I WAS used became abundantly clear to me when he promised to explain his
manipulation of the noddelist "as a special favor to me", but then did not,
claiming lack of time, while at the same time writing volumes of messages to
others. I have received no explanation or civil communication from him to date,
and that was the case even before I finally realized I was being used and
reacted accordingly.

I may be slow to grasp that I'm being used, but I'm not dumb. You apparently
haven't reached that point yet.

Cheers, Bob

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