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Skriven 2012-09-14 01:33:13 av Roy Witt (1:387/22)
   Kommentar till text 3889 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
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01 Jan 70 00:00, Janis Kracht wrote to Roy Witt:

 >> I don't know how you could support a POS like Obama when he's given us
 >> nothing but debt on top of dept, to the tune of 5 Trillion Dollars
 >> more than any previous President.

 JK> What was the debt when Bush began his presidency. Without saying, you
 JK> can't compare the records of GWB and Barak Obama...

Which is correct...there is no way to compare them.

We've faced a government health care takeover, burdening Americans with
over $500 Billion in new taxes imposed by that law and the present
administration.

We've had four straight years of spending trillions of dollar we don't
have.

We have a Democratic controlled Senate for the last 4 years who can't put
a balanced budget on the floor for a vote. Meanwhile the 2010 elected
Conservative controlled House has passed 4 budgets in the last two years,
only to see them die in the Senate.

Meanwhile, the Obama version is completely ignored in both houses, for
good reason, since it includes yet another tax hike.

Billions of dollars wasted on green energy companies like Solyndra, which
went bankrupt.

Over 42 straigtht months of Unemployment above 8%, over 14% in some
states. Even higher among minorities, which the Dems want them to embrace
for being such great hand-me-more-unearned-money...

 JK> =====
 JK> In 2001, the national debt Bush inherited was around $5.7T, give or
 JK> take. Some of that debt in 2001 has to be attributed to Clinton, just
 JK> as some of the debt in 2009 when Obama took office has to be
 JK> attributed to Bush. When W. left office in 2009, the debt was nearly
 JK> $11T. That's an increase of 89 percent.

Over an 8 year period...using your figures, which aren't correct BTW, that
is less than $1t per year. I can see where most of it went with two wars
on the agenda. They were approved by Congress, which was a majority of
Liberals, off and on who voted for each war.

Meanwhile, Obama has nearly doubled that to $16 trillion with another
$5-8 trillion to come in 2016, when he is no longer with us if re-elected
now.

 JK> Under Obama, the debt has increased from about $11T to about $15T,
 JK> about 40 percent.

And that was only in his first 4 years. If re-elected, he will more
than double up on that one. Given your numbers again which are wrong,
that's at least $1.5t per year, and given another 4 years, will exceed
$12t in spending.

Add that to the $16t we're now having to figure out how to pay for and we
have a grand total of $28t by 2016...

It's time to look at somebody who knows how to budget without having to
raise taxes on even the lowest income bracket into oblivion...

 JK> And what's behind that increase? Historically low taxes and
 JK> historically low revenues

A myth propagated by libs. More spending requires more taxable income,
meaning; taxing the rich won't work because they'll pull every cent they
have out of the US  economy and put it to good use elsewhere. Taxing the
rich  will also kill any hopes of creating more jobs, sending the US
economy into the shit-can even further than Obama has already taken us.

I'm a former employer and would let every employee go if I had to endure
more federal taxes...

 JK> -- and the worst financial crash since the 1930s. There's been no
 JK> "binge" in spending...

Stop the spending and the taxes won't have to be raised...I'd move my
funds offshore and fuck the Obama shitheads.

 >> Obama Care that steals 1 Billion dollars from Medicare

 JK> No, sorry untrue..

Fact...

 JK> "While the Affordable Care Act does reduce Medicare spending,

Tell me about it. I get less care because of money stolen out of Medicare.
Not to mention that my Medicare premiums and co=pays go up while I get
less care.

 JK> as Politifact has explained, "Those dollars aren't taken out of the
 JK> current budget, they are not actual cuts, and nowhere does the bill
 JK> actually eliminate any current benefits."

Politifact is wrong...the facts speak louder than their words.

 JK> "Instead of targeting beneficiaries, the spending cuts largely come
 JK> from reduced payments to hospitals, discounts on prescription drugs
 JK> and cuts to private insurers under Medicare Advantage."

Yeup, which affects my care too. Less money paid to those entities and my
services are cut short...fact, as explained by my primary care doctor.
She may not even be a Medicare doctor in the future because of this stolen
money with less services offered.

 JK> The latest report from Medicare trustees does say that the program
 JK> will be insolvent by _2024_, but that report also found that the
 JK> Affordable Care Act -- whose repeal has been made a top priority by
 JK> Romney and other Republicans -- has significantly improved the
 JK> financial outlook of the program."

LOL! That isn't true either.

 JK> Heh.. If you want sources for these statements, I can dig them up.

No thanks, I want sources that tell the truth and not lie to my face.

 JK> Here's another one for you:

 JK> "CMS and the Kaiser Family Foundation tell ABC News that there will
 JK> be no benefit cuts to Medicare.

And you would believe a libeeral source rather than the facts.

Understandable, considering your polictics.

 JK> They say instead of Medicare's being cut, there will be much more
 JK> spending at the end of a 10-year window, but it does slow the rate of
 JK> that growth. This is all unless Congress makes drastic changes to
 JK> Medicare, for example passing House Budget Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan's
 JK> Medicare Plan.

That plan is a sound plan that Senate controlling liberals won't allow...

 JK> CMS says  --  and Kaiser agrees-- that spending will be reduced by
 JK> getting rid of fraud and ending overpayments to private insurance
 JK> companies. It sends a message to those insurance companies: Operate
 JK> more efficiently."

LOL! Here's the bottom line of my most recent bill statement.

             service          Insurance  Covered    My
              code    Charge  excluded   charge  %  benefit
Doc Dabas     xxxxxC  59.34    59.34       .00         .00  Doctor visit
 "   "        xxxxxL  45.00    45.00       .00         .00  Labs
 "   "        xxxxxL  57.98    45.96     11.02  100  11.02  Labs
 "   "        xxxxxI 143.76    82.15     61.61  100  61.61  Injection
 "   "        xxxxxI  20.00    12.00      8.00   80   6.40  Injection
                                            My cost -$1.60
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                     326.06   245.45     80.63       80.63 - 1.60

                              Amount Insurance paid $79.03

This is just for one visit, which I have to do every month...

Whose getting the shitty end of that stick? The doctor who won't be able
to stay in business at the rates NOT paid. Which affects my treatment in
the end. This wasn't so until Obamacare became law.


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