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Skriven 2006-06-02 21:14:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
   Kommentar till text 1564 av Vladimir Donskoy (2:5020/2992)
Ärende: Situation on R2:50
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Hello Vladimir.

02 Jun 06 14:38, you wrote to me:

 MV>>>> Yes, that is very expensive. But not unheard of here in the
 MV>>>> past here as well.

 VD>>> How years was ago?

 MV>> 1995, when FidoNet was at its top here.

 VD> So I can have a hope after 10 years we will have more beatiful costs
 VD> of phonecalls.

I think think there is ground for moderate optimism.

 VD>>> - from 1.5 euro per minit for near countries (Ukraine) to 2-3
 VD>>> euros for Europe countries.

 MV>> I symphatise with your problems. But I know they can be overcome
 MV>> as we had the same problems and found a way.

 VD> We decide these problem by IP-phones, but it is not correct for FIDO.

How so? If you have VOIP you have en IP connection and so you can use it for
Fido over IP. What is the problem?

 VD>>> But your salary allow to use satellit phones

 MV>> My income definitely does *not* allow me a satellite phone.

 VD> Really?!

Yes really. A satellite phone is too expensive for me.

 VD> This is a strange - 1 minit satellit call cost near 2-3 euros, and
 VD> satellit-phone cost 300-500 euros... This is not expensive for work
 VD> people in Europe!

You are wrong. 500 Euro is a substantial amount of money. Not something that
the average European would spend just like that.

 VD>>> About summer houses - in Moscow area at 100-200 km from Moscow
 VD>>> exist villages without any phone communication - without not
 VD>>> only-cable but without cell phones! And his salary is not allow
 VD>>> to use satellit :-( .

 MV>> As I said, my salary does not allow me a satellite phone either.

 VD> Strange.

Well, maybe I should qualify that. If I *really* needed a satellite telephone I
could scrape the EUR 500,- together I suppose. But it would mean I have to
forgo somethng else as I can only spend it once. I would have to stay home and
not go on holiday for example.

I only know one porsom who has a satellite phone. A couple of years ago he sold
his house and bought am ocean going boat. He is now sailing the world. *He* has
use for it. Landlubbers here have little or no use for satellite phones, They
are *way* to expensive, they dont work indoors and there is cell phone coverage
almost everywhere.

 VD>>> For example: http://www1.mtsgsm.com/coverage/mts/moscow/ - map
 VD>>> of the most cell provider for Moscow region.

 MV>> Well, that doesn't look so bad. Actually it looks like over 95%
 MV>> of the people live in an area that is covered. That is pretty
 MV>> good I say. Much better than I expected.

 VD> Areas without cell phones place near "summer-houses"... In the another
 VD> places they cost very expensive.

I will tell you a little secret: I can not afford a summer house either...


 VD> However it seems to me that we in vain discuss the prices in the
 VD> different countries - sometime at us that standard of living, as now
 VD> at you will be accessible. And now it much below...

It is extremely dificult to compare prices, a direct currency conversion will
seldom do. When I was a student we used to convert everything into glasses of
beer, but I found out that is not satisfactory either. If only because we lost
count so often... ;-)

Cheers,

Michiel

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