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Skriven 2006-04-06 11:26:48 av Rich Gauszka (1:379/45)
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Ärende: Re: Berk! Windows on Mac
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From: "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com>

You can purchase a XP w SP2. I also noted that Apple does not support the Media
Center Edition

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303572#faq1

Why can't an upgrade version of Windows XP or a full version of Windows XP that
does not include Service Pack 2 (SP2) be used for installation?

You would be required to insert your original Windows CD during installation,
however there is no way to eject the first disc until after Windows
installation is complete and the drivers from the Macintosh Driver CD created
by Boot Camp Assistant Beta are installed. Important: Boot Camp Beta is
designed to support only Windows XP Home Edition and Professional with SP2. The
required Macintosh-specific drivers provided by Apple are only intended for
these releases.



"RobertB." <rb28@nyu.edu> wrote in message
news:rb28-844568.11092506042006@w3.nls.net...
> By the way, a recent FAQ I read about this indicates that, at this time,
> you can only install XP with Service Pack 2 on the CD (or DVD). IOW, you
> cannot install XP and upgrade to Service Pack 2. Does MSoft ship XP with
> Service Pack 2 direct from the factory?
> robert
>
>
> In article <44343bbc@w3.>, "Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, Apple may have guaranteed at least one more full service pack
>> release
>> for XP and a "manufacturing refresh" for new production runs.
>>
>> No doubt PC Magazine will fail to write about Windows on Mac until AFTER
>> it
>> becomes dangerously incompatible.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:44340ca0@w3....
>> > I'm sure, just as with OS2, the next patch release of Windows will
>> > somehow
>> > *accidentally* not work with Boot Camp
>> >
>> >
>> > "RobertB." <rb28@nyu.edu> wrote in message
>> > news:rb28-565234.14240505042006@w3.nls.net...
>> > > From this morning. By the way, Apple's stock just shot up.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  http://www.news.com/
>> > > Apple: Windows on a Mac is here
>> > >
>> > > By Candace Lombardi
>> > >
>> http://news.com.com/Apple+Windows+on+a+Mac+is+here/2100-1012_3-6057856.ht
>> > > ml
>> > >
>> > > Story last modified Wed Apr 05 10:38:17 PDT 2006
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Apple Computer said on Wednesday that it has released a public beta
>> > > version of Boot Camp, software that enables Microsoft Windows XP to
>> > > run
>> > > natively on Intel-based Macs.
>> > > The software, which will be included in Mac OS X 10.5, called
>> > > Leopard,
>> > > is available for download on Apple's Web site. Apple will also
>> > > preview
>> > > Boot Camp in August at its Worldwide Developers Conference, the
>> > > company
>> > > said.
>> > > "Apple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows, but many
>> > > customers have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple's
>> > > superior hardware, now that we use Intel processors," Philip
>> > > Schiller,
>> > > Apple's senior vice president of worldwide product marketing, said in
>> > > a
>> > > statement. "We think Boot Camp makes the Mac even more appealing to
>> > > Windows users considering making the switch."
>> > > Apple didn't specifically mention plans to support running Vista, the
>> > > long-delayed update to the Windows operating system now expected
>> > > early
>> > > next year.
>> > > Microsoft representatives were not immediately available for comment.
>> > > Also unclear is what the Mac maker's move will mean for sales of
>> > > Windows-based PCs. Market researcher IDC has already scaled back PC
>> > > sales forecasts for the year, due in part to the Vista delay. And
>> > > some
>> > > analysts expect Apple sales to rise as a result of the holdup of the
>> > > new
>> > > operating system's release.
>> > > With Boot Camp, Intel-based Mac users can choose between running Mac
>> > > OS
>> > > or Windows XP each time they boot their system.
>> > > The move in this direction began last June, when Apple CEO Steve Jobs
>> > > announced that Apple was shifting to Intel-based computers. Apple
>> > > also
>> > > said it had been developing Mac OS X with the intention that it would
>> > > be
>> > > able to run on Intel chips and IBM's PowerPC chips, which were
>> > > previously the sole processors used in Macs.
>> > > In January, Apple released the first Intel-based Macs with Intel's
>> > > Duo
>> > > dual-core chips. The new computers run two to three times faster than
>> > > similar Macs with PowerPC chips, Apple said. Since then, speculation
>> > > had
>> > > grown about whether the company would enable Microsoft's ubiquitous
>> > > operating system to run natively on its computers.
>> > > In other news:
>> > >   ?  Apple: Windows on a Mac is here
>> > >   ?  Microsoft ramps up virtualization push
>> > >   ?  An absolutely unstunning T-shirt
>> > >   ?  News.com Extra: Beam can single out drunk drivers
>> > >   ?  Video: Are you a marketing genius?
>> > > While Apple has prohibited people from running Mac OS X on anything
>> > > other than its own computers, it has never tried to prevent Mac
>> > > owners
>> > > from trying to run Windows on their machines. Still, the company has
>> > > not
>> > > been a large supporter of the idea. That's something Apple Senior
>> > > Software Architect Cameron Esfahani made clear at the Intel Developer
>> > > Forum in March.
>> > > Customers, however, have been clamoring to see it happen. There have
>> > > even been XP-on-Mac contests in recent weeks.
>> > > "This solves a lot of potential holdups to Macintosh adoption. While
>> > > a
>> > > group of programmers already has demonstrated that this is entirely
>> > > possible to do, that method for deployment is more of a clever hack
>> > > that
>> > > no sane end user would attempt," JupiterResearch analyst Michael
>> > > Gartenberg wrote in a blog posting Wednesday.
>> > > "Overall, (this is) a nice tactical move by Apple that will make
>> > > their
>> > > platforms and systems much more attractive," Gartenberg wrote.
>> > > Mac fans might remember that this isn't the first time that Apple has
>> > > supported Windows via a dual-boot option. In the mid 1990s, the
>> > > company
>> > > introduced--and soon discontinued--Macintosh models that supported a
>> > > plug-in card, which included a separate x86 processor for running
>> > > both
>> > > DOS and Windows.
>> > > Still, Apple won't provide any technical support for the Boot Camp
>> > > beta,
>> > > and the company was quick to point out the potential pitfalls of
>> > > running
>> > > Windows. "Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC.
>> > > That
>> > > means it'll be subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows
>> > > world," the company warned on its Web site. "So be sure to keep it
>> > > updated with the latest Microsoft Windows security fixes."
>> > > The new software, coupled with the tremendous popularity that the
>> > > iPod
>> > > has brought to Apple, could bring more people over to the Apple side,
>> > > some analysts said.
>> > > Paul Jackson, an analyst at Forrester Research, predicts that home
>> > > users
>> > > previously daunted by a fear of incompatibly with their work PC and a
>> > > strong desire to hold on to Windows-based programs may now make the
>> > > jump
>> > > to Macs.
>> > > Apple's move is great for Microsoft, Jackson said, since it will mean
>> > > extra sales of XP, but it's bad news for PC makers that previously
>> > > didn't have to worry about competing for market share with Apple.
>> > > "Apple machines are excellently manufactured, and the performance is
>> > > far
>> > > superior," Jackson told CNET News.com. "But companies like Dell and
>> > > HP
>> > > never really had to worry about competing with Apple in the hardware
>> > > market. Now you can go in, look at those gorgeous Mac Minis and
>> > > MacBook
>> > > (Pros) and view them as a normal PC. You can run XP and never touch
>> > > OS
>> > > X, if you don't want to."
>> > > And, according to Jackson, Macs seem to do XP well.
>> > > "From what we know of the hackers' success last week at the XP-on-Mac
>> > > contest, once you get XP to run on the Intel Mac, the performance is
>> > > actually quite good. We will have to actually wait and see the
>> > > results
>> > > of more official benchmark testing, but so far, that's what it looks
>> > > like."
>> > > Jackson also noted that Apple's move is an indication of what
>> > > industry
>> > > insiders have argued all along.
>> > > "By doing this, Apple has made a tacit acknowledgement of what many
>> > > have
>> > > already said, which basically is: If you're serious about home
>> > > computing
>> > > or small-enterprise computing, you need Windows. There's no way
>> > > around
>> > > it," Jackson said.
>> > > And, according to Wall Street, this is good news for Apple stock.
>> > > Company shares jumped several percentage points in early-morning
>> > > trading, as analysts had mostly positive things to say about the big
>> > > announcement.
>> > > In other news:
>> > >   ?  Apple: Windows on a Mac is here
>> > >   ?  Microsoft ramps up virtualization push
>> > >   ?  An absolutely unstunning T-shirt
>> > >   ?  News.com Extra: Beam can single out drunk drivers
>> > >   ?  Video: Are you a marketing genius?
>> > > "In short, we believe this news, more than any news in recent memory,
>> > > provides a critical boost to Apple's ability to gain share in the PC
>> > > market," a JPMorgan Chase analyst report said.
>> > > Deutche Bank issued a "buy" for Apple stock on a prediction of share
>> > > gains.
>> > >
>> > > Goldman Sachs, however, was not as impressed.
>> > > "Given the newness of Intel-based Macs, we would not expect any
>> > > meaningful impact on Mac sales or earnings in the near or
>> > > intermediate
>> > > term," Goldman Sachs in its analyst report of Apple's move. "However,
>> > > this is another step in Apple's efforts to expand its total
>> > > addressable
>> > > market to include a more mainstream audience."
>> > > Goldman Sachs also noted that the situation could be a "slight
>> > > negative
>> > > for Microsoft" because it does not think that increased Windows sales
>> > > would have much of an impact on Microsoft's overall percent of the
>> > > market--but that a migration to Apple computers could.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Copyright C1995-2006 CNET Networks, Inc. All rights reserved.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

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