Text 15411, 231 rader
Skriven 2007-01-13 20:45:30 av Rich (1:379/45)
Kommentar till text 15410 av Geo. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: george's preferences
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From: "Rich" <@>
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My point is that I am an expert user. I don't think even you would =
argue otherwise. Yet, despite that I use almost all defaults. I would =
describe this as appropriate for a typical user not a newbie, ordinary = user,
or other classification, simply typical user.
Selecting more appropriate views for folders with pictures is a good =
thing. I was very happy when this was introduced in Windows XP as it = shows
me more what I want to see. As for displaying it the same as last = time, this
is the case unless you have chosen the option to not save = view settings for
each folder.
Everyone gets informative error messages. Do you have specific =
examples where you believe a "newbie" does not? As for experts not = liking
the system to fix itself, as an expert I have to disagree. I = want anything
that can be fixed automatically to be fixed automatically. =
I want this logged and in some cases I might want a notification in the =
tray, of the type that you whined earlier that you don't like. If your =
personal preferences differ you can configure things your way on the = systems
you control. I can almost guarantee that what you think I want = as an expert
is not what I want.
Rich
"Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:45a9b17d$1@w3.nls.net...
Well since you are perfectly happy with the newbie settings that it =
uses=20
now, I would imagine one of the three choices would work for you.
As for the NTLM logic, I wasn't talking about that specifically, I'm=20
thinking more along the look and feel lines, wizards, admin tools, =
controls,=20
folder defaults, automatic things like changing the folder view when =
it's=20
pictures instead of honoring the system default for folders, etc. If I =
want=20
to see thumbnails, I know how to do that, just display the folder the =
way I=20
had it last time I viewed it and I'll be happy.
For example, newbies like it when the system fixes itself, experts =
hate it=20
when the system changes their settings but they like informative error =
messages. That is the sort of thing I would like to see different =
based on=20
the selection I mentioned. Newbies get wizards, experts get =
diagnostics,=20
users get both.
Geo.
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:45a9ab13@w3.nls.net...
The problem especially with the "expert" option you suggest is that =
experts differ. I would consider myself an expert user and your =
preferences=20
are not my preferences.
I disagree there is any meaningful difference between what you call =
"newbies" and what you call "average users". I especially do not =
believe=20
you can make an intelligent distinction.
Even as an expert, I prefer almost all UI settings to remain the =
default=20
for several reasons. One is that the defaults are OK for me. The =
type of=20
changes I make are to tighten security in ways that you might find=20
objectionable such as disallowing auth except 128-bit NTLMv2 and =
Kerberos=20
which prevents access from Windows NT 4.0 and other old versions of =
Windows.=20
I also disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP which also prevents access from =
Windows=20
NT 4.0 and other old versions of Windows. I tighten other security =
settings=20
and enable settings that force buggy applications to be more likely to =
crash. I've enabled these for years. I wouldn't have recommended =
disabling=20
Windows NT 4.0 access to your default Windows 2000 user but it was =
fine for=20
me. In fact I think all my changes are good for me which is why I =
make them=20
but I do not have your ego to suggest that my preferences should be =
the=20
default for others.
Rich
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> My point is that I am an =
expert=20
user. I don't think even you would argue otherwise. Yet, =
despite=20
that I use almost all defaults. I would describe this as = appropriate
for a=20
typical user not a newbie, ordinary user, or other classification, = simply=20
typical user.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Selecting more appropriate =
views for=20
folders with pictures is a good thing. I was very happy when this =
was=20
introduced in Windows XP as it shows me more what I want to see. = As
for=20
displaying it the same as last time, this is the case unless you have = chosen
the=20
option to not save view settings for each folder.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Everyone gets informative =
error=20
messages. Do you have specific examples where you believe a = "newbie"
does=20
not? As for experts not liking the system to fix itself, as an = expert
I=20
have to disagree. I want anything that can be fixed automatically = to
be=20
fixed automatically. I want this logged and in some cases I might = want
a=20
notification in the tray, of the type that you whined earlier that you =
don't=20
like. If your personal preferences differ you can configure things =
your=20
way on the systems you control. I can almost guarantee that what = you
think=20
I want as an expert is not what I want.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Geo." <<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>> wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45a9b17d$1@w3.nls.net">news:45a9b17d$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>Well=20
since you are perfectly happy with the newbie settings that it uses =
<BR>now, I=20
would imagine one of the three choices would work for you.<BR><BR>As =
for the=20
NTLM logic, I wasn't talking about that specifically, I'm <BR>thinking =
more=20
along the look and feel lines, wizards, admin tools, controls, =
<BR>folder=20
defaults, automatic things like changing the folder view when it's=20
<BR>pictures instead of honoring the system default for folders, etc. =
If I=20
want <BR>to see thumbnails, I know how to do that, just display the =
folder the=20
way I <BR>had it last time I viewed it and I'll be happy.<BR><BR>For =
example,=20
newbies like it when the system fixes itself, experts hate it <BR>when =
the=20
system changes their settings but they like informative error =
<BR>messages.=20
That is the sort of thing I would like to see different based on =
<BR>the=20
selection I mentioned. Newbies get wizards, experts get diagnostics, =
<BR>users=20
get both.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45a9ab13@w3.nls.net">news:45a9ab13@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
The problem especially with the "expert" option you suggest is that=20
<BR>experts differ. I would consider myself an expert user and =
your=20
preferences <BR>are not my preferences.<BR><BR> I disagree =
there=20
is any meaningful difference between what you call <BR>"newbies" and =
what you=20
call "average users". I especially do not believe <BR>you can =
make an=20
intelligent distinction.<BR><BR> Even as an expert, I prefer =
almost all=20
UI settings to remain the default <BR>for several reasons. One =
is that=20
the defaults are OK for me. The type of <BR>changes I make are =
to=20
tighten security in ways that you might find <BR>objectionable such as =
disallowing auth except 128-bit NTLMv2 and Kerberos <BR>which prevents =
access=20
from Windows NT 4.0 and other old versions of Windows. <BR>I also =
disable=20
NetBIOS over TCP/IP which also prevents access from Windows <BR>NT 4.0 =
and=20
other old versions of Windows. I tighten other security settings =
<BR>and=20
enable settings that force buggy applications to be more likely to=20
<BR>crash. I've enabled these for years. I wouldn't have=20
recommended disabling <BR>Windows NT 4.0 access to your default =
Windows 2000=20
user but it was fine for <BR>me. In fact I think all my changes =
are good=20
for me which is why I make them <BR>but I do not have your ego to =
suggest that=20
my preferences should be the <BR>default for=20
others.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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