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Text 4978, 152 rader
Skriven 2005-06-14 17:04:00 av Rich (1:379/45)
   Kommentar till text 4976 av Mike '/m' (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Everyone should take a pay cut
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From: "Rich" <@>

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 Still spinning Mike.  Where is that 1000x pay cut you should take to =
match the reduction in hardware costs?  Have you already offered this to = your
employer?  Have you explained it to the folks on your team?

Rich

  "Mike '/m'" <mike@barkto.com> wrote in message =
news:ollua15jjp7pff4ad6ldhgiob18sr49g7f@4ax.com...
  On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:18:54 -0400, "Geo" <georger@nls.net> wrote:

  >"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:42ae2b5b@w3.nls.net...
  >
  >>>   Do you pay the software developers, testers, UE folks, and =
others
  >involved in software development less than you did a year ago?<<
  >
  >No, you sell the software they make to 9x the number of customers now =
that
  >more people own computers.
  >
  >Think about it Rich, how many kids had their own computers when the =
systems
  >cost $5000? (windows 3.1 days). Back then our house had 1 computer, =
today we
  >have 9 and all 9 came with legal copies of Windows.

  Or you don't pass the benefit of volume on to your employees, and you
  just chalk it up to increased profits.  Note the increase in margins:

  Fiscal Year:    1985  1990  1995  1999*  2000*
  Gross Marg.(%)  78.6  77.0  77.8  85.7   86.9
  Net Marg.(%)    17.1  23.5  23.9  39.4   41.0

  Another viewpoint:

  http://money.cnn.com/2002/04/12/pf/agenda_randdev/

  =3D=3D=3D
  NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The problem, of course, is that no matter how
  impressive 4.5 percent or 9.42 percent is on short-term investments,
  Microsoft was not built on single-digit returns. Indeed, the whole
  reason Connors has all that cash to manage in the first place is =
because
  Microsoft's core software business is such a money gusher.=20

  Software requires tremendous up-front research and development costs,
  but once a program begins shipping, additional copies can be produced
  for nickels (a blank CD, some cardboard and shrink wrap) or even less
  (pre-installed on a computer or delivered via the Web).....
  =3D=3D=3D

   /m
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;Still spinning Mike.&nbsp; Where =
is that=20
1000x pay cut you should take to match the reduction in hardware =
costs?&nbsp;=20
Have you already offered this to your employer?&nbsp; Have you explained = it
to=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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  <DIV>"Mike '/m'" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:mike@barkto.com">mike@barkto.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:ollua15jjp7pff4ad6ldhgiob18sr49g7f@4ax.com">news:ollua15jjp7=
pff4ad6ldhgiob18sr49g7f@4ax.com</A>...</DIV>On=20
  Tue, 14 Jun 2005 06:18:54 -0400, "Geo" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;"Rich"=20
  &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:42ae2b5b@w3.nls.net">news:42ae2b5b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&gt;=
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Do you pay the software developers, testers, UE folks, and=20
  others<BR>&gt;involved in software development less than you did a =
year=20
  ago?&lt;&lt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;No, you sell the software they make to 9x =
the=20
  number of customers now that<BR>&gt;more people own=20
  computers.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Think about it Rich, how many kids had their =
own=20
  computers when the systems<BR>&gt;cost $5000? (windows 3.1 days). Back =
then=20
  our house had 1 computer, today we<BR>&gt;have 9 and all 9 came with =
legal=20
  copies of Windows.<BR><BR><BR>Or you don't pass the benefit of volume =
on to=20
  your employees, and you<BR>just chalk it up to increased =
profits.&nbsp; Note=20
  the increase in margins:<BR><BR>Fiscal Year:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
1985&nbsp;=20
  1990&nbsp; 1995&nbsp; 1999*&nbsp; 2000*<BR>Gross Marg.(%)&nbsp; =
78.6&nbsp;=20
  77.0&nbsp; 77.8&nbsp; 85.7&nbsp;&nbsp; 86.9<BR>Net =
Marg.(%)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  17.1&nbsp; 23.5&nbsp; 23.9&nbsp; 39.4&nbsp;&nbsp; =
41.0<BR><BR><BR>Another=20
  viewpoint:<BR><BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://money.cnn.com/2002/04/12/pf/agenda_randdev/">http://money.=
cnn.com/2002/04/12/pf/agenda_randdev/</A><BR><BR>=3D=3D=3D<BR>NEW=20
  YORK (CNN/Money) - The problem, of course, is that no matter =
how<BR>impressive=20
  4.5 percent or 9.42 percent is on short-term investments,<BR>Microsoft =
was not=20
  built on single-digit returns. Indeed, the whole<BR>reason Connors has =
all=20
  that cash to manage in the first place is because<BR>Microsoft's core =
software=20
  business is such a money gusher. <BR><BR>Software requires tremendous =
up-front=20
  research and development costs,<BR>but once a program begins shipping, =

  additional copies can be produced<BR>for nickels (a blank CD, some =
cardboard=20
  and shrink wrap) or even less<BR>(pre-installed on a computer or =
delivered via=20
  the Web).....<BR>=3D=3D=3D<BR><BR>&nbsp;/m</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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