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Text 553, 133 rader
Skriven 2004-09-12 12:45:32 av Rich (1:379/45)
    Kommentar till text 550 av Geo. (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Spammers faster than the good guys....
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   Hardly a real world example but lets run with it.  mike miller's =
experience is that bank robber's do wear blue shoes so it does help.  = Not
only that, the brown and black shoe contingents are also blocked and = the
other colors can be as soon as they choose to get around to it.

Rich

  "Geo." <georger@nls.net> wrote in message =
news:4144a04b$1@w3.nls.net...
  It's bull, that's like claiming a firewall that only acts on packets =
from one
  class C is somehow protection from compromise.

  Rich tries to make it sound like SPF is somehow protecting AOL users =
from spam
  when he himself has claimed it is not.

  A real world example would be like making it illegal to rob a bank =
wearing blue
  shoes. That's not protection for the bank in any sense.

  Geo.

  "John Beckett" <FirstnameSurname@compuserve.com.omit> wrote in message
  news:41442d09.39461272@216.144.1.254...
  > "Rich" <@> wrote in message news:<4143af21$1@w3.nls.net>:
  > >    Unless you are dense you sure did mention protecting AOL users =
and
  > > you did so again.  If AOL knows enough that mike's domain did not =
send
  > > the email that claims such in order not to send him an NDR, it =
also
  > > knows enough to not pass it on to the AOL user recipient.  From =
AOL's
  > > perpective, the latter is all it cares about.  That mike doesn't =
get an
  > > NDR is just a happy side effect.
  >
  > This is surely game, set and match to Rich!
  >
  > If anyone would care to refute the above, PLEASE say something =
relevant!.
  >
  > John
  >


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; Hardly a real world =
example but lets=20
run with it.&nbsp; mike miller's experience is that bank robber's do = wear
blue=20
shoes so it does help.&nbsp; Not only that, the brown and black shoe =
contingents=20
are also blocked and the other colors can be as soon as they choose to = get=20
around to it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Geo." &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:georger@nls.net">georger@nls.net</A>&gt; wrote=20
  in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:4144a04b$1@w3.nls.net">news:4144a04b$1@w3.nls.net</A>...</DI=
V>It's=20
  bull, that's like claiming a firewall that only acts on packets from=20
  one<BR>class C is somehow protection from compromise.<BR><BR>Rich =
tries to=20
  make it sound like SPF is somehow protecting AOL users from =
spam<BR>when he=20
  himself has claimed it is not.<BR><BR>A real world example would be =
like=20
  making it illegal to rob a bank wearing blue<BR>shoes. That's not =
protection=20
  for the bank in any sense.<BR><BR>Geo.<BR><BR>"John Beckett" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:FirstnameSurname@compuserve.com.omit">FirstnameSurname@com=
puserve.com.omit</A>&gt;=20
  wrote in message<BR><A=20
  =
href=3D"news:41442d09.39461272@216.144.1.254">news:41442d09.39461272@216.=
144.1.254</A>...<BR>&gt;=20
  "Rich" &lt;@&gt; wrote in message <A=20
  =
href=3D"news:<4143af21$1@w3.nls.net">news:&lt;4143af21$1@w3.nls.net</A>&g=
t;:<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Unless you are dense you sure did mention =
protecting=20
  AOL users and<BR>&gt; &gt; you did so again.&nbsp; If AOL knows enough =
that=20
  mike's domain did not send<BR>&gt; &gt; the email that claims such in =
order=20
  not to send him an NDR, it also<BR>&gt; &gt; knows enough to not pass =
it on to=20
  the AOL user recipient.&nbsp; From AOL's<BR>&gt; &gt; perpective, the =
latter=20
  is all it cares about.&nbsp; That mike doesn't get an<BR>&gt; &gt; NDR =
is just=20
  a happy side effect.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; This is surely game, set and =
match to=20
  Rich!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; If anyone would care to refute the above, PLEASE =
say=20
  something relevant!.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
John<BR>&gt;<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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