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From: "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com>

I know they don't translate well to cars, but they take pressure off the demand
for fuels that do translate well to cars <just as using corn for fuel puts
pressure on my cost of eating> <g>

"Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:42feba45$1@w3.nls.net...
>> We'll never run out of oil, precisely because of those higher prices; as
>> they get too high the alternatives come on board as affordable and reduce
>> increased consumption of oil -- yes, "corn-power" is one of those, but a
>> less than desirable one in my estimation.
>
> Sorry, I want to be able to be mobile, and oil will most certainly become
> uneconomical for that.
>
>> Better to go for more nuclear, more solar, more new technology that has
>> not been thought of (or wasn't feasible) yet...
>
> Biodiesel's here now and it's more economical than any of those.  We need
> all of these btw, but they don't translate well to cars. (we just don't
> have good enough batteries either...)
>
> - Bob Comer
>
>
> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42feb8df$1@w3.nls.net...
>> Eh, I'm still not convinced that converting food to fuel is a worthwhile
>> enterprise in the long run. No, I didn't mean that I wanted price
>> controls on my ear of corn, I meant that it would be artificially higher
>> in price because of unnatural competition via Hummer appetites (and I use
>> "Hummer" only as an example of excess that I feel represents the thinking
>> behind the plan to use food for fuel).
>>
>> We'll never run out of oil, precisely because of those higher prices; as
>> they get too high the alternatives come on board as affordable and reduce
>> increased consumption of oil -- yes, "corn-power" is one of those, but a
>> less than desirable one in my estimation.
>>
>> Better to go for more nuclear, more solar, more new technology that has
>> not been thought of (or wasn't feasible) yet...
>>
>>
>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:42feae7c@w3.nls.net...
>>>> So you're saying that $5 ears of corn are in my future;
>>>
>>> Actually, no, other crops would do, that's just one of the easy ones
>>> (and not the easiest).  We have plenty of agriculture capability that's
>>> just not used like it used to be.
>>>
>>>>all because the Hummer people want cheaper fuel for their hobbies and
>>>>extravagances?
>>>
>>> So slap controls on the price, but I didn't think you believed in that.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Let the market decide is the right's mantra, but you're not doing
>>> that...
>>>
>>>>You do understand that they'll start breeding new strains of corn that
>>>>will yield more fuel but be inedible, right?
>>>
>>> Yep, sounds good to me -- makes a lot of sense.
>>>
>>>><then they'll start making vacuum packs of soy products (unless soy is
>>>>good for Hummers too) with food coloring to make the contents look like
>>>>the former food we enjoyed that is now consigned to the tanks of our
>>>>Hummers in the name of commuting to work to earn money to buy facsimiles
>>>>of our former dinners>
>>>
>>> Soy *would* work for bio diesel, just not as efficient)
>>>
>>> I wouldn't be against banning hummers too btw.
>>>
>>>> I'm not really "that" worried about it, but there are both obvious and
>>>> unforeseen consequences to using food for gas tanks vs. stomachs.
>>>
>>> It's better than higher and higher oil prices until we run out, and then
>>> we're totally screwed if we haven't gone to something else. (not to
>>> mention the middle east problems that we wouldn't have if we didn't need
>>> the oil)
>>>
>>>
>>> - Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42feab76@w3.nls.net...
>>>> So you're saying that $5 ears of corn are in my future; all because the
>>>> Hummer people want cheaper fuel for their hobbies and extravagances?
>>>> You do understand that they'll start breeding new strains of corn that
>>>> will yield more fuel but be inedible, right? <then they'll start making
>>>> vacuum packs of soy products (unless soy is good for Hummers too) with
>>>> food coloring to make the contents look like the former food we enjoyed
>>>> that is now consigned to the tanks of our Hummers in the name of
>>>> commuting to work to earn money to buy facsimiles of our former
>>>> dinners>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not really "that" worried about it, but there are both obvious and
>>>> unforeseen consequences to using food for gas tanks vs. stomachs.
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:42fea628$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> When all the Hummer people start tooling around on "corn-power" how
>>>>>> much is my favorite summer food going to cost me then?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's no different than oil, and you can do without corn if you
>>>>> needed to.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:42fe8e3e@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> So this year the local farmstands are charging 45 cents an ear for
>>>>>> corn (which seems real high to me, but I don't really remember what
>>>>>> they charged last, and prior, years) so it's costing me $1.30 a day
>>>>>> (not counting butter) for just that dinner course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When all the Hummer people start tooling around on "corn-power" how
>>>>>> much is my favorite summer food going to cost me then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:42fe8a9f@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>I like it a lot, a truly renewable resource.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:42fe81f9$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> Yes, I know the (im)practicalities of it all, but I still don't
>>>>>>>> like it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:42fe7e81$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>> <Now Bob will faint too> <g>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not a chance, we have a LOT of corn field production capabilities
>>>>>>>>> but can't sell the stuff on the foreign market so well, so it'd be
>>>>>>>>> a double win. (rice is a better staple for the starving anyway)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Mark" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:42fe7145$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"@the field.near the
>>>>>>>>>> bridge"> wrote in message news:42fe636a@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>> Geo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:42f82175$1@w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's part of the new energy law that Bush signed today -- it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>goes into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>effect next year and it adds another month of daylight savings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>time...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What did he do, pray real hard and god changed the
>>>>>>>>>>>> sunrise/sunset times?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cause without more daylight I fail to understand how this is
>>>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> conserve energy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Geo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why is there so little in the bill which pushes bio-diesel?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's the best option given your cornfields etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't like that whole idea of using food for engines -- it just
>>>>>>>>>> seems immoral to me, to drive around on "corn-power" with so many
>>>>>>>>>> people starving in the world. <Now Bob will faint too> <g>
>>>>>>>>>>
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