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Kommentar till text 8347 av Rich (1:379/45)
Ärende: Re: Fair Use and MS Monopoly Tactics
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From: "Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org>
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Yes it is legal if handled properly. It would be called fair use, and = no I'm
not worried about being disbarred. Just like you aren't worried = about being
fired for your public anti-customer hostile behavior that = continues to drive
down the opinions of many tech people about your = employer and its products.
Given your employer's general reputation = this kind of customer norelations
posting on your part is probably how = you get a bigger raise. So why don't
you go for the big bucks, and like = I said if you think I'm doing something
wrong then have your general = counsel email me a demand letter. Better yet
post it right here in = binaries. I waive any claim of privacy to the content
of a cease and = desist demand letter from your general counsel's office to me
on the = issue of wanting a method to turn the recovery console set command
*on* = by testing the use of two files from an XP Pro box. Just make a pdf out
= of it and post it in binaries for the world to see what kind of petty =
bullshit you and your employer are all about, or STFU.
You could have avoided all this by just confirming the below information = as a
regedit change, but that would have required a more customer = centric attitude
on yours and your employer's part.
What is it about gpedit.msc on XP Home that's got your undies all in a = knot?
Is that how MS cripples Pro into Home by adjusting some of the = local machine
policies and deleting a few files? I haven't said = anything about trying to
turn XP Home into XP Pro, nor do I have the = desire to waste my time even
considering such an endeavor. I just want = a recovery console, which XP Home
legally installed on my computer, to = be able to access all files and drives
and floppys, instead of just two = directories, windows and the root
directory.
Gary Britt
BTW, to anybody wanting to run a useful recovery console on XP Home, = make
sure you make the following setting in your registry *BEFORE* you = need to use
the recovery console:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows =
NT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole]
"SetCommand"=3Ddword:00000001
The above is from my win2K box. I believe the SetCommand off or on = value is
at the same location in XP, but you might want to verify that = since I haven't
had a chance yet.
I still have some unanswered questions and comments on XP from my = original
post before Rich threadjacked me into his alternate reality. = So if anyone
cares to go back to my original post and reply to my = comments and questions
there, it would be appreciated.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net...
So you don't have an unused Windows XP Professional license. Do you =
really think what you are proposing is legal. Are you a lawyer? Aren't = you
concerned about being disbarred for ethical violations?
Your complaining about the best buy offer price is whining. If you =
want something buy it. If the cost is higher than the value to you then =
don't. You are free to use any of the many alternatives the very = competitive
market makes available to you. If you are unhappy with the = cheaper lesser
products then complain to those folks that they don't = make what you want.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message =
news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net...
XP Pro is loaded on a computer my wife uses, and I try to avoid her =
computer
at all costs. On the other hand she's never run or even heard of
gpedit.msc.
It wasn't compusa it was best buy, and complaining about your =
company's
monopoly pricing isn't whining, just recognizing the facts. If your =
only
point here is to demonstrate just how far downhill Microsoft has gone =
over
the years, well you continue to perform admirably. If you don't have
anything to add to the discussion that's content driven why don't you =
just
STFU. If your employer feels violated by anything I've written then =
have
your general counsel email me a demand letter. Otherwise, the old =
format
command is looking better and better.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:43847e54@w3.nls.net...
If you have a valid Windows XP Professional license you should =
install
Windows XP Professional. I'm surprised you say this after your =
earlier
message whining about the price compusa quoted you.
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net...
Yes it would be if I thought it was breaking the law. I have valid
licenses
for XP Home and XP Pro. Don't you have anything better to do than =
worry
about someone trying to have a workable recovery console on XP Home. =
If a
user attempts to have a safer environment from which to run your =
products
that's a problem for you and your company? If your so worried about
someone
running gpedit.msc on XP Home so they can turn on the set commands =
in the
recovery console, you could just provide the proper value to set for =
the
one
or two appropriate keys in the registry.
As for your other question, XP Home is what came with the laptop, =
and
except
for a couple of things its good enough for now. I have never used =
XP on
one
of my computers. I'm looking at it while considering how to handle =
moving
my licensed full retail copy of win2k over from my old laptop. Your
helpful
interjection into this thread certainly makes me want to invest the =
time
learning to use your current OS versus just staying with Win2K or =
going to
Linux and running my Office 2K Apps under Linux.
OH and thanks for answering my questions and trying to improve your
company's image with its customers. You're doing a great job.
Gary
"Rich" <@> wrote in message news:4384036b@w3.nls.net...
Isn't it unwise for a lawyer to discuss his breaking the law in a
public
forum?
If you want Windows XP Professional why didn't you buy Windows XP
Professional?
Rich
"Gary Britt" <email@from_Gary_Britt.org> wrote in message
news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net...
I think I've figured out how to hack the registry to get the set =
command
turned on in the recovery console so I can access everything when =
in the
recovery console. I've found reference to a technique of bringing =
over
two
files from an XP Pro machine and registering them with regsvr32 =
that
supposedly allows the gpedit.msc console to run on XP Home. =
Anybody
done
this before?
Gary
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<DIV>Yes it is legal if handled properly. It would be called =
fair=20
use, and no I'm not worried about being disbarred. Just like you =
aren't=20
worried about being fired for your public anti-customer hostile =
behavior=20
that continues to drive down the opinions of many tech people about your =
employer and its products. Given your employer's general=20
reputation this kind of customer norelations posting on your part = is=20
probably how you get a bigger raise. So why don't you go for = the
big=20
bucks, and like I said if you think I'm doing something wrong then have =
your=20
general counsel email me a demand letter. Better yet post it right = here
in=20
binaries. I waive any claim of privacy to the content of a cease = and=20
desist demand letter from your general counsel's office to me on the = issue
of=20
wanting a method to turn the recovery console set command *on* by = testing
the=20
use of two files from an XP Pro box. Just make a pdf out of it and = post
it=20
in binaries for the world to see what kind of petty bullshit you and = your=20
employer are all about, or STFU.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You could have avoided all this by just confirming the below =
information as=20
a regedit change, but that would have required a more customer centric =
attitude=20
on yours and your employer's part.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What is it about gpedit.msc on XP Home that's got your undies all =
in a=20
knot? Is that how MS cripples Pro into Home by adjusting some of = the
local=20
machine policies and deleting a few files? I haven't said anything =
about=20
trying to turn XP Home into XP Pro, nor do I have the desire to waste my =
time even considering such an endeavor. I just want = a=20
recovery console, which XP Home legally installed on my=20
computer, to be able to access all files and drives and floppys, = instead
of=20
just two directories, windows and the root directory.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Gary Britt</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BTW, to anybody wanting to run a useful recovery console on XP =
Home, make=20
sure you make the following setting in your registry *BEFORE* you need = to
use=20
the recovery console:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows=20
NT\CurrentVersion\Setup\RecoveryConsole]<BR>"SetCommand"=3Ddword:00000001=
<BR></DIV>
<DIV>The above is from my win2K box. I believe the SetCommand off =
or on=20
value is at the same location in XP, but you might want to verify that = since
I=20
haven't had a chance yet.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I<STRONG> still have some unanswered questions and comments on XP =
from my=20
original post before Rich threadjacked me into his alternate = reality.
So=20
if anyone cares to go back to my original post and reply to my comments =
and=20
questions there, it would be appreciated.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Gary</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"Rich" <@> wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net">news:4384bf00@w3.nls.net</A>...</DIV>&n=
bsp; =20
So you don't have an unused Windows XP Professional license. Do = you
really=20
think what you are proposing is legal. Are you a lawyer? = Aren't
you=20
concerned about being disbarred for ethical = violations?<BR><BR>
Your=20 complaining about the best buy offer price is whining. If you
want =
something buy it. If the cost is higher than the value to you then =
don't. You are free to use any of the many alternatives the very=20
competitive market makes available to you. If you are unhappy with =
the=20
cheaper lesser products then complain to those folks that they don't = make
what=20
you want.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR><BR> "Gary Britt" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t; wrote=20
in message <A=20
href=3D"news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net">news:4384878e$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
XP=20
Pro is loaded on a computer my wife uses, and I try to avoid her=20
computer<BR> at all costs. On the other hand she's never run = or
even=20
heard of<BR> gpedit.msc.<BR><BR> It wasn't compusa it was = best
buy,=20
and complaining about your company's<BR> monopoly pricing isn't =
whining,=20
just recognizing the facts. If your only<BR> point here is = to=20
demonstrate just how far downhill Microsoft has gone over<BR> the =
years,=20
well you continue to perform admirably. If you don't = have<BR> =20
anything to add to the discussion that's content driven why don't you=20
just<BR> STFU. If your employer feels violated by anything =
I've=20
written then have<BR> your general counsel email me a demand =
letter. =20
Otherwise, the old format<BR> command is looking better and=20
better.<BR><BR> Gary<BR><BR> "Rich" <@> wrote in = message
<A=20
href=3D"news:43847e54@w3.nls.net">news:43847e54@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
If you have a valid Windows XP Professional license you should =
install<BR> =20
Windows XP Professional. I'm surprised you say this after your=20
earlier<BR> message whining about the price compusa quoted=20
you.<BR><BR> Rich<BR><BR> "Gary Britt" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t; wrote=20
in message<BR> <A=20
href=3D"news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net">news:43841068$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
=20
Yes it would be if I thought it was breaking the law. I have=20
valid<BR> licenses<BR> for XP Home and XP =
Pro. =20
Don't you have anything better to do than worry<BR> =
about=20
someone trying to have a workable recovery console on XP Home. If=20
a<BR> user attempts to have a safer environment from =
which to=20
run your products<BR> that's a problem for you and = your=20
company? If your so worried about<BR> =
someone<BR> =20
running gpedit.msc on XP Home so they can turn on the set commands in=20
the<BR> recovery console, you could just provide the =
proper=20
value to set for the<BR> one<BR> or two = appropriate
keys=20
in the registry.<BR><BR> As for your other question, = XP
Home=20
is what came with the laptop, and<BR> except<BR> = for
a=20
couple of things its good enough for now. I have never used XP=20
on<BR> one<BR> of my computers. I'm = looking at
it=20
while considering how to handle moving<BR> my licensed =
full=20
retail copy of win2k over from my old laptop. Your<BR> =20
helpful<BR> interjection into this thread certainly = makes
me=20
want to invest the time<BR> learning to use your = current
OS=20
versus just staying with Win2K or going to<BR> Linux = and=20
running my Office 2K Apps under Linux.<BR><BR> OH and =
thanks=20
for answering my questions and trying to improve =
your<BR> =20
company's image with its customers. You're doing a great=20
job.<BR><BR> Gary<BR><BR><BR> "Rich" =
<@> wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:4384036b@w3.nls.net">news:4384036b@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>&nbs=
p; =20
Isn't it unwise for a lawyer to discuss his breaking the law in =
a<BR> =20
public<BR> =
forum?<BR><BR> =20
If you want Windows XP Professional why didn't you buy Windows=20
XP<BR> Professional?<BR><BR> =20
Rich<BR><BR> "Gary Britt" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:email@from_Gary_Britt.org">email@from_Gary_Britt.org</A>&g=
t; wrote=20
in message<BR> <A=20
href=3D"news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net">news:4383ec15$1@w3.nls.net</A>...<BR>=
<BR><BR> =20
I think I've figured out how to hack the registry to get the set=20
command<BR> turned on in the recovery = console
so I=20
can access everything when in the<BR> =
recovery=20
console. I've found reference to a technique of bringing=20
over<BR> two<BR> files = from
an=20
XP Pro machine and registering them with regsvr32=20
that<BR> supposedly allows the gpedit.msc =
console=20
to run on XP Home. Anybody<BR> =20
done<BR> this=20
before?<BR><BR> =
Gary<BR><BR><BR><BR></BODY></HTML>
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