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Skriven 2009-05-22 10:43:00 av Bob Klahn (1:124/311)
     Kommentar till en text av Bob Ackley
Ärende: Re-examining Torture ...
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JF>>   This begs the question...why would they continue to use
JF>> waterboarding,  etc, all of these years if it didn't work??    I

BA>>Because they're a bunch of sadistic psychopaths that get their jollies by
BA>>doing things like that.  Those are the folks you're defending, John.

 What they can't seem to get through their heads is, normal
 people cannot torture others. So, if someone is willing to
 torture, that person is not normal. If you train someone, or
 stress someone to the point where he will torture, he is no
 longer normal.

 They talk about letting those terror suspects loose in America.
 What about the torturers who will be let loose in America?

 Those who will torture are also those who will commit other acts
 of terrorism... if given the motivation.

 TR> People who push people in wheel chairs off of cruise ships
 TR> into the ocean;

 Yes, there is no real difference.

 TR> People who beat American sailors to death in aircraft and
 TR> toss their bodies out onto the runway;

 Yes, there is no real difference.

 TR> People who video-cam each other forcing someone with their
 TR> arms tied behind their backs to their knees, and then
 TR> deliberately behead them;

 Yes, there is no real difference.

 TR> People who deliberately position rocket launching, and
 TR> mortar launching equipment in civilian areas, and then
 TR> widely publicize the photographic aftermath of an attack on
 TR> that position, claiming *they* are the victims;

 Sounds like something Carl Rove would do.

 TR> People who have deliberately murdered several thousand
 TR> Americans, in one of America's major cities, by hijacking
 TR> and flying jumbo jets into a twin-tower multi-story
 TR> building;

 Yes, there is no real difference.

 TR> People who set off explosive devices in the middle of
 TR> crowded markets, killing dozens of innocent people;

 Yes, there is no real difference.

 TR> Those sorts are a bunch of sadistic psychopaths that get
 TR> their jollies by doing things like that. Those are the
 TR> folks you are defending, Ackley.

 There is no real difference. To condemn torturers is to condemn
 the terrorists.

 TR> A few of them got made `a bit uncomfortable' during an
 TR> interrogation? Gee........thats a real cryin' shame! Mary
 TR> Poppins would be awfully put out about that!

 And he can *GUARANTEE* not one single innocent person was
 tortured in those interrogations.

 TR> Some of them had their blankets taken away? Thats too bad.
 TR> They weren't allowed to have prayer rugs? Its a tough life,
 TR> ain't it!

 TR> Am I bothered because a couple of Arab terrorists got made
 TR> to feel `uncomfortable'? I keep remembering the many
 TR> American citizens murdered and held hostage by the Arab
 TR> terrorists over the years, and the thousands of Americans

 Must be a reflection on the weakness of his idol, Ronald Reagan,
 who didn't act to stop it.

 TR> murdered by Arab terrorists in one single act on
 TR> 9/11.....and I have a real hard time raising any sympathy
 TR> for terrorists in my mind. I think about the woman who was
 TR> deliberately beheaded, and the video of her beheading
 TR> gleefully shown by Arab TV stations.....and I have a hard

 Like the Saudi woman beheaded, and we didn't invade Saudi
 Arabia, now did we?

 TR> time giving a shit how many Arab terrorists get
 TR> `water-boarded'.

 Which implies not giving a shit how many innocents get
 waterboarded. After all, how do you know they are innocent until
 you waterboard them. When you waterboard them they will confess
 to stop the torture, so they must be guilty.

 Problem solved!



BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

... "I've been waterboarded, it's torture". Jesse Ventura on Fox and Friends.
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