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Ärende: Rise and Fall
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Worth a good read.....  The author is the guy who started the Rich Dad 
Poor Dad series of finance books.  

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http://tinyurl.com/2v6ra49


by Robert Kiyosaki
Monday, October 18, 2010

Alexander Tytler (1747-1813) was a Scottish-born English lawyer and 
historian. Reportedly, Tytler was critical of democracies, pointing to 
the history of democracies such as Athens and its flaws, cycles, and 
ultimate failures. Although the authenticity of his following quote is 
often disputed, the words have eerie relevance today:

A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a 
permanent form of government.

A democracy will continue to exist up until the time voters discover 
they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From 
that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise 
the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every 
democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is 
always followed by dictatorship.

The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning 
of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these 
nations always progressed through the following sequence:

• From bondage to spiritual faith;

• From spiritual faith to great courage;

• From courage to liberty;

• From liberty to abundance;

• From abundance to complacency;

• From complacency to apathy;

• From apathy to dependence;

• From dependence back to bondage.

Tytler's Cycle and the U.S.

In looking at American history, we can see Tytler's sequence in action. 
In 1620, the Pilgrims sailed to America to escape the religious bondage 
imposed by the Church of England. Their spiritual faith carried them to 
the new world.

Because of their deep faith, the Pilgrims left England in spite of the 
high percentage of deaths incurred by earlier American settlements. For 
example, when Jamestown, Virginia, was founded in 1607, 70 of the 108 
settlers died in the first year. The following winter only 60 of 500 new 
settlers lived. Between 1619 and 1622, the Virginia Company sent 3,600 
more settlers to the colony, and over those three years 3,000 would die.

In 1776, the Declaration of Independence was signed. From spiritual 
faith the new Americans were garnering great courage. By crafting the 
Declaration of Independence, the colonists knew they were essentially 
declaring war on the most powerful country in the world -- England.

With the onset of the Revolutionary War, the colonists were moving from 
courage to liberty, following Tytler's sequence. By demanding their 
independence and being willing to fight for it, a new democracy was 
born. This new democracy grew rapidly for nearly 200 years.

Then, in 1933, the U.S. was thrown into the Great Depression and elected 
Franklin Delano Roosevelt as president. Facing total economic collapse, 
Roosevelt took the U.S. dollar off the gold standard. At the same time, 
Germany, also in financial crisis, elected Adolf Hitler as its leader. 
World War II soon followed.

In 1944, with WWII coming to an end, the Bretton Woods Agreement was 
signed by the world powers and the U.S. dollar, once again backed by 
gold, became the reserve currency of the world.

After the war, America passed England, France, and Germany to become the 
new world power. Having entered the war late, the U.S. emerged as the 
creditor nation to the world. Our factories weren't bombed and the world 
owed us money. The U.S. grew rich financing the rebuilding of England, 
France, Germany, Italy, and Japan. The American democracy was 
transitioning from liberty to abundance -- maybe too much abundance.

In 1971 President Nixon violated the Bretton Woods Agreement by taking 
the U.S. dollar off the gold standard because America was spending more 
than it was producing and the U.S. gold reserves were being depleted.

In 1972 Nixon visited China to open the door for trade. What followed 
was the biggest economic boom in history -- a boom fueled by the U.S. 
borrowing money through the sale of bonds to China, one of the world's 
poorest countries at that time. The sale of these bonds financed a 
growing U.S. trade deficit. China produced low-cost goods, and we paid 
for them with money borrowed from the Chinese workers.

American factory production, which had fueled the American boom after 
WWII, was "shipped" overseas along with high-paying American jobs. 
America was shifting from abundance to complacency. Rather than produce, 
we borrowed and printed money to maintain our standard of living.

In 1976 America celebrated its 200th anniversary as a democracy. Rather 
than produce, we kept borrowing to finance social-welfare programs. Over 
the next three decades or so, America slid from complacency to apathy.

In 2007 the subprime crisis reared its ugly head. And by 2010, 
unemployment increased to double-digits, even as the rich got richer. 
Once-affluent people walked away from homes they could no longer afford. 
The U.S. moved from apathy to dependence.

Today we're dependent upon China to finance our debt as well as fill our 
stores with cheap products. At the same time, millions of Americans are 
becoming dependent upon the government to take care of them. If Tytler 
is correct, the American democracy is presently moving from dependence 
back to bondage.

Filling the Void

History reminds us that dictators and despots arise during times of 
severe economic crisis. Some of the more infamous despots are Hitler, 
Stalin, Mao, and Napoleon. I find it interesting that the U.S. is now 
dependent upon Chairman Mao's creation, the People's Republic of China, 
for the things that we buy and the money that we borrow.

To me, this is spooky, foreboding, and ominous. While the Chinese 
people, as a rule, are good people, my business dealings with Communist 
Chinese officials have left me disturbed and concerned about the rise of 
the Chinese Empire. As you know, China doesn't plan on becoming a 
democracy. With money, factories, a billion people to feed, and a 
massive military, could they put the free world into bondage?

Although I don't like the way the Chinese do business, I continue to do 
business in China. I have to. They're the next world power. I cautiously 
believe that trade, business, and understanding offer better options for 
world peace and prosperity than isolationism. 
Now the Western world must seek to grow stronger financially as China 
continues to gain power. To do this, our schools need to offer more 
sophisticated financial education to children of all ages.

This is not the time to be complacent or apathetic. This is the time to 
think globally. Putting up trade barriers would be disastrous. Instead, 
it's time our schools train students to be entrepreneurs who export to 
the world rather than employees looking for jobs that are being exported 
to low-wage countries.

Please be clear. I don't fear the Chinese. I fear our own growing 
weakness. Only a weak people can be oppressed. Today, America has too 
many people looking to the government for financial salvation.

In 1620 the Pilgrims fled the spiritual oppression of the Church of 
England. Today Americans may need to flee the financial oppression of 
our own government as our democracy dies. If we follow Tytler's cycle 
for democracy, our financial dependence will lead us to financial 
bondage.

CMPQwk 1.42-21 9999 
Democrats --  The party of economic destruction ....

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