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Text 7573, 127 rader
Skriven 2008-09-07 06:21:00 av TIM RICHARDSON (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av BOB ACKLEY
Ärende: Torture
===============
On 09-06-08, BOB ACKLEY said to TIM RICHARDSON:


BA>>> I recommend Claire Sterling's "The Terror Network," and Walter
BA>>> Laquere's "Terrorism" to start with.


TR>> I don't need to put money into some hack writer's bank account to
TR>> know the Arabs in the Middle East hate Americans.


BA>> Neither are hacks, and neither focus on Palestinian/Islamic
BA>> terrorism.


BA>If memory serves Ms. Sterling's book does touch on the early days of
BA>Palestinian terrorism.  The focus of her book is 'state sponsored
BA>terrorism,' particularly the
BA>training and support provided to various terrorist groups by Soviet bloc
BA>governments
BA>and the fact that many if not most of these groups (the Irish Republican
BA>Army, the
BA>Basque ETA separatists, the PLO, the Baader-Meinhof gang and others) were
BA>networked together.  Note that Yasser Arafat's early operations were
BA>included in this type of
BA>terrorism.


Again........all information that can be gathered by a careful reading of
major news publications, and a listen to news broadcasts.


Its been known for many years that terrorist groups of various flavors have
been cooperating with each other, `networking' together, and many are
sponsored by, supplied by, trained by, various foreign governments for the
purpose of disrupting world peace in general, and the United States and Great
Brittian in particular.


BA>I don't think the book is still in print, it was written over
BA>30 years ago.


Then one wonders why you bothered to mention it in the first place.


TR> I don't care who or what they are. I've never heard of either one of
TR> them, and if, as you say, "....and neither focus on
TR> Palestinian/Islamic terrorism."... they have nothing to do with what
TR> we're discussing here.

TR> They don't `focus on Palestinian/Islamic terrorism', they have nothing
TR> of interest I care to read.


BA>No doubt you don't know - or care - who Michael Scheuer and Chalmers
BA>Johnson are, either.  FYI between them both have written a total of about


You're right on both counts; I don't know who they are.......and I don't care
who they are, either.


I don't go looking for people like that or their books, for the same reason I
wouldn't go out and buy and read a book on basketball written by Magic
Johnson;


I know about basketball, how to play it, if I wanted to know about the
individual players I could just read a local newspaper sport section, or
listen to one of the local sports casters on the evening news. What would I
need Johnson's book for?


BA>six books that at least touch on your favorite subject, all since 2000.

First of all........don't get snotty with me. We were having a conversation.
If you want to start snotting off, thats the end of the conversation.


BA>Walter Laquere's "The New Terrorism," circa 1999, also covers your favorite
BA>subject in some if not considerable detail; that you've never heard of him
BA>or the book is a measure of your knowledge of the subject.


Secondly.....if *you* were so superior in knowledge of the subject.......I
have to wonder that you aren't in Washington telling everybody what to do, and
with you on the job 9/11 would probably `never' have come off.



TR> The subject *we* are discussing here is Palestinian/Islamic terrorism,
TR> and how it relates to America. Try to keep up.


BA>No, *you* were discussing Palestinian/Islamic terrorism, *I* was
BA>discussing terrorism in general.


Don't look now........but thats what this war is about; terrorism in general.


Right now I only care about how it effects America in general, and American
citizens in particular.


BA>It sometimes - even usually - helps to
BA>have a broad overview and a historical sense/context of a general subject
BA>before focusing on one particular subset of that subject.


You don't need all that bullshit to get the picture from the smoking ruins of
the 9/11 attack.


All your `supposed' superior knowledge and lore didn't stop 9/11, nor could it
have.


And by the way......I probably have just as much a `broad overview....and
historical sense/context of this subject as you do. You aren't quite as
superior as you think you are.


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