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President and President Putin Discuss Strong U.S.-Russian Partnership
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For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
February 24, 2005

President and President Putin Discuss Strong U.S.-Russian Partnership
Constitution Hall
Bratislava Castle
Bratislava, Slovakia



5:50 P.M. (Local)

PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you all. I've just had a very important and
constructive dialogue with my friend. It's great to see -- I know Laura was
pleased to see Lyudmila Putin, as well. We have had, over the past four
years, very constructive relations, and that's the way I'm going to keep it
for the next four years, as well.

We've had an open and candid exchange of views and positions. In our
meeting earlier I said, "Vladimir, when we get in here I think people are
going to be very interested in this press conference, for some reason, I'm
not sure why." Perhaps it's because you're a leader of a great nation and
I'm fortunate to be one, too. But you can see we've drawn quite a crowd
here. So I'm looking forward to answering their questions.

We produced a lot of positive results at this meeting. We agreed to
accelerate our work to protect nuclear weapons and material, both in our
two nations and around the world. And I want to thank you for that. And I
want to thank our Defense Ministers for working on the issue, as well --
Minister Ivanov is here; he and Secretary Rumsfeld have had a very
constructive relationship. Our mil-to-mil exchanges are very positive, and
I appreciate that. You and I talked about that a couple of years ago; I
think they're coming to fruition, which is a very important way to make
sure we understand each other better.

We agreed upon new efforts to fight the war on terror, to combat MANPADS
and improvised explosive devices. And I want to thank you for that.
Vladimir has been a -- ever since the -- September the 11th, he has clearly
understood the stakes that we face. And every time we meet, he is -- we
have an interesting and constructive strategy session about how to continue
to protect our peoples from attack. He is -- he has confronted some serious
attacks in his country. I know what that means as a fellow leader. I know
the strain, I know the agony, I know the sadness, I know the emotion that
comes with seeing innocent people lose their lives, and we have shared
that. I hope we never have to share it again, that common -- that common
situation.

We agreed that Iran should not have a nuclear weapon. And I appreciate
Vladimir's understanding on that issue. We had a very constructive dialogue
about how to achieve that common goal. We agreed that North Korea should
not have a nuclear weapon. And again, this is an area where we're working
closely together as two nations of the five nations that are involved with
North Korea.

We agreed to accelerate negotiations for Russia's entry into the WTO. I
stated that the other day in Brussels. We talked about ways to move this
process forward. We agreed to cooperate in the field of energy. I told
Vladimir that Secretary Bodman would be our main representative on this
issue, and I look forward to constructive -- hearing about constructive
dialogue on energy.

We agreed to work together to find peace in the Middle East. Russia's a
part of the Quartet, and they played a constructive role in establishing
the road map, and now we look forward to working together to achieve peace.

This meeting also gave me an opportunity to share my belief that it's in my
country's interest that Russia be a strong and viable partner with the
United States. It's very important that we establish not only a working
relationship, but that we understand that in the 21st century, strong
countries are built by developing strong democracies. And so we talked
about democracy. Democracies always reflect a country's customs and
culture, and I know that. But democracies have certain things in common:
They have a rule of law and protection of minorities, a free press and a
viable political opposition.

Russia has made tremendous progress over the last 15 years. It's an amazing
transformation of the nation. And I applaud President Putin for dealing
with a country that is in transformation. And it's been hard work. I was
able to share my concerns about Russia's commitment in fulfilling these
universal principles. I did so in a constructive and friendly way. I
reaffirmed my belief that it is democracy and freedom that bring true
security and prosperity in every land.

We may not always agree with each other, and we haven't over the last four
years -- that's for certain -- but we found a lot agreement, a lot of
common ground, and the world is better for it. Even though we didn't agree
on certain issues, if you really think about what we have done the last
four years, and what we want to do during the next four years, the common
ground is a lot more than those areas where we disagree. And by working
together, this world will be a safer, freer and more prosperous place.

Mr. President, it's great to see you again. Thank you.

PRESIDENT PUTIN: (As translated.) First of all, I would like to say that my
meeting with the President of the United States has been a friendly one,
has taken place in a very trustful atmosphere. This has been a dialogue of
interested partners, which became clear right away.

In the course of our meeting, starting from the first minutes of our
dialogue, we had a substantive discussion of the entire international
agenda. The President has mentioned the key items in our dialogue. We share
a position on the status of the Russia-U.S. relationship. It is true that
over the past few years, through joint efforts, we have been able to
accumulate a unique cooperation. We are engaged in a constructive political
dialogue, and we are discovering new opportunities for joint business,
cultural, and scientific initiatives.

It is obvious that Russia and the U.S. share long-term interests, genuine
strategic goals, and certainly, a great degree of responsibility before our
own people and people of other countries. We talked about international
security. This reality is not affected by the circumstances of the moment
or the consolidation of political interests. Therefore, we can see no
alternative to the consistent strengthening of the Russia-U.S.
relationship.

In the course of this summit, we have agreed upon specific guidelines that
will navigate us through the process of cooperation in the forthcoming
three years. This has to do primarily with addressing the threats and
challenges of today; first and foremost, fighting terrorism. We have agreed
to better coordinate our efforts on these fronts, including through the
Russia-U.S. working group on counterterrorism, which has existed five
years. Among the highlighted priorities have been the neutralization of the
systems of financing and recruiting of terrorists, and work on identifying
terrorist cells, et cetera.

We are ready to jointly work on the pressing problem of stemming the
illicit trade in MANPADS. Our colleagues today agreed upon this in very
concrete terms. I'd like to note that on the sidelines of this summit, the
Russian Minister of Defense, Sergei Ivanov and Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice signed a Russian-U.S. arrangement on cooperation in
enhancing control over MANPADS. It is important to neutralize the attempts
to proliferate weapons of mass destruction.

We talked a lot about nonproliferation. We talked a lot about the situation
in Iran, about the situation in Iran -- North Korea, and we share a common
opinion in this regard, and we are taking a similar approach. We should put
an end to the proliferation of missiles and missile technology. The
proliferation of such weapons is not in the interest of specific countries,
or the international community, in general.

We have also exchanged our views on the situation in Iraq, in the Middle
East. Russia and the U.S. have at their disposal some solid opportunities
for normalizing the situation in places where regional crises take place.
We intend to actually use this potential. We have paid great attention to
economic cooperation including, as has already been said, the possible
accession of Russia to the WTO. We have reaffirmed our intention to
continue our search for mutually acceptable solutions of the outstanding
problems. Russia is ready for a reasonable compromise, but this compromise
should not go beyond the usual responsibilities assumed by countries
acceding to the WTO.

In the presence of the press, I would like to thank the President of the
United States for the serious message that our negotiators noticed in the
course of negotiations, a message aimed at resolving all the problems that
stand in the way of Russia's accession to the WTO. I'm sure that not only
Russian economy, but also the U.S. economy are interested in the positive
outcome.

We also discussed the issues relating to Russia-U.S. energy dialogue. We've
had some progress in this area, some good progress. We're going to continue
this dialogue. Some issues have been positively resolved in terms of
expanding the operation of U.S. companies in Russian energy markets.
ConocoPhilips, as you know, has bought a stake in Lukoil, one of the major
Russian oil companies. It bought a stake that used to belong to the Russia
state. This happened recently, and I'm confident that this will be a
success story, both for Russian and U.S. partners.

Another important and interesting opportunity is our cooperation in the
supplies of liquified natural gas. In the year 2010, 2011, a large amount
of liquified natural gas can be supplied from Russia to the United States.
Our investment corporation is becoming generally bilateral. The first steps
-- but constant steps are being made by Russian companies that are starting
to invest their capital into American economy.

We have also discussed the status and prospects of Russia's cooperation in
science, high-tech; in particular, in the exploration of outer space.

In conclusion, I would like to say that I highly appreciate the outcome of
this summit. Later this year, we are going to meet a few more times within
the framework of various international fora. I would like to take this
opportunity to thank the President of the United States who has accepted
the invitation to participate in the festivities on the occasion of the
anniversary of the great victory on May 9th in Moscow. This is a natural
manifestation of respect of historic memory and the memory of the alliance
that bonded our two countries in the years of the second world war.

Thank you.

Q Mr. President, four years ago when you first met with President Putin, at
a time some in the world were questioning his commitment to democracy, you
reassured a lot of those critics by saying that you had looked into his
soul and saw a man that you found trustworthy. You've just listed some
concerns here today. I'm wondering if you could unequivocally and without
reservation repeat that statement today?

And, Mr. Putin, I'd like to ask you to address critics in the United States
and elsewhere who saw Mr. Gorbachev and Mr. Yeltsin as taking early steps
on the path to democracy and worry that you have reversed course.

PRESIDENT BUSH: One thing I -- gave me comfort in making the statement I
made in Slovenia was that Vladimir said, when I agree with you, I'll agree
with -- I'll tell you, and when I disagree with you, I'll tell you. In
other words, we'll have a very frank and candid and open relationship. And
that's the way it's been. There was no doubt in my mind what his position
was on Iraq. He didn't kind of hedge, he didn't try to cloud up the issue.
He made it abundantly clear to me that he didn't agree with my decision.
And that's an important part of having a trustworthy relationship, a
relationship where, when a person tells you something, you know he means
what he says, and, "yes" means yes, and "no" means no. Sometimes in
politics yes means "maybe," and no means "if." This is the kind of fellow
who, when he says, yes, he means, yes, and when he says, no, he means, no.

And we had a discussion about some decisions he's made. He's had some
interest in the decisions I've made. And that's a very important dialogue.
And as I said, I'll say it again, I think it's very important that all
nations understand the great values inherent in democracy -- rule of law
and protection of minorities, viable political debate. When I brought that
-- I don't want to put words in -- Vladimir can speak for himself on this
issue, but all I can tell you is, he said -- yes meant yes, when we talked
about values that we share.

PRESIDENT PUTIN: First of all, I would like to say that we discussed these
issues at length, face to face, just the two of us. Russia has made its
choice in favor of democracy. Fourteen years ago, independently, without
any pressure from outside, it made that decision in the interests of itself
and interests of its people -- of its citizens. This is our final choice,
and we have no way back. There can be no return to what we used to have
before. And the guarantee for this is the choice of the Russian people,
themselves. No, guarantees from outside cannot be provided. This is
impossible. It would be impossible for Russia today. Any kind of turn
towards totalitarianism for Russia would be impossible, due to the
condition of the Russian society.

As far as the questions that are being discussed among our partners in the
media, I can only repeat what has been said by the President of the United
States. First, we are not going to make up -- to invent any kind of special
Russian democracy; we are going to remain committed to the fundamental
principles of democracy that have been established in the world. But, of
course, all the modern institutions of democracy -- the principles of
democracy should be adequate to the current status of the development of
Russia, to our history and our traditions.

There is nothing unusual here, either. In every country, these overall
principles are embodied in this or that way. In electoral law, we can
compare the United States and a number of European countries. In the
operation of major democratic institutions, there may be some differences,
but the main, fundamental principles are going to be implemented in the
form in which they have been developed by the modern, civilized society.

As far as the preceding period in our development, no doubt the credit that
can be given to that period in the development of the Russian Federation
for the fact that the previous generation of politicians, despite all the
difficulties that have arisen due to changes in Russia, they have given the
main thing to the Russian people -- that is freedom. But I believe that a
lot of people will agree with me, the implementation of the principles and
norms of democracy should not be accompanied by the collapse of the state
and the impoverishment of the people.

We believe, and I personally believe, that the implementation and the
strengthening of democracy on the Russian soil should not jeopardize the
concept of democracy. It should strengthen statehood and it should improve
living standards for the people. It is in this direction that we're going
to act.

Q First of all, I wanted to ask another question, but we have an
interesting conversation now, therefore I'm going to ask about the
following: It seems to me that you have nothing to disagree about. The
regimes that are in place in Russia and the U.S. cannot be considered
fuller democratic, especially when compared to some other countries of
Europe, for example -- for example, The Netherlands. It seems to me, that
as far as Russia is concerned, everything is clear, more or less. But as
far as the U.S. is concerned, we could probably talk at length. I am
referring to the great powers that have been assumed by the security
services due to which the private lives of citizens are now being monitored
by the state. This could be explained away by the consequences of September
11th, but this has nothing to do with democratic values. How could you
comment on this? I suggest that you can probably agree -- you can probably
shake hands and continue to be friends in future.

PRESIDENT BUSH: I live in a transparent country. I live in a country where
decisions made by government are wide open, and people are able to call
people to -- me to account, which many out here due on a regular basis. Our
laws, and the reasons why we have laws on the books, are perfectly
explained to people. Every decision we have made is within the Constitution
of the United States. We have a Constitution that we uphold. And if there
is a question as to whether or not a law meets that Constitution, we have
an independent court system, through which that law is reviewed.

So I'm perfectly comfortable in telling you, our country is one that
safeguards human rights and human dignity, and we resolve our disputes in a
peaceful way.

PRESIDENT PUTIN: I would like to support my American counterpart. I'm
absolutely confident that democracy is not anarchy. It is not a possibility
to do anything you want. It is not the possibility for anyone to rob your
own people. Democracy is, among other things, and first and foremost, the
possibility to democratically make democratic laws and the capability of
the state to enforce those laws.

You have cited a curious example -- The Netherlands. The Netherlands is a
monarchy, after all. I have no doubts about the democratic nature of that
country. That is certainly a democratic nation, but this is very different
from the United States and Russia.

There are great differences between Russia and the U.S., as well. If we
talk about where we have more or where we have less democracy is not the
right thing to do. But if we talk about how the fundamental principles of
democracy are implemented in this or that historic soil, in this or that
country, is an option, it's possible. This does not compromise the dignity
of The Netherlands or Russia or the U.S.

Q -- on some of the decisions he has made on his democratic institutions,
or have you just agreed to disagree? And, President Putin, did anything
President Bush say to you today prompt you to reconsider some of those
decisions?

PRESIDENT BUSH: I think the most important statement that you heard, and I
heard, was the President's statement, when he declared his absolute support
for democracy in Russia, and they're not turning back. To me, that is the
most important statement of my private meeting, and it's the most important
statement of this public press conference. And I can tell you what it's
like dealing with the man over the last four years: When he tells you
something, he means it. He asked what some of my concerns were, and he
explained answers. I told him that it was very important that capital see
rule of law, that there be stability, there not be any doubt about whether
or not -- if somebody invests, whether or not the laws change. And I think
Vladimir heard me loud and clear, and he explained why he made decisions he
made.

But we had very frank discussions about a variety of issues. And the
operative -- again, the operative statement, the summary statement that I
think is important for people to hear in our countries, precisely his
opening statement to King's question -- speaking about monarchies. Anyway.
Get it? (Laughter.) It's late in the trip. Which is, firm belief in
democracy. And I appreciate that.

PRESIDENT PUTIN: I have already mentioned that we have paid a lot of
attention to these issues. I get the impression that sometimes the public
in the now partner countries do not have the full knowledge and,
consequently, do not have the full understanding of what is taking place in
the Russian Federation. Naturally, within our countries, there are people
who are in favor and there are those who are opposed to the decisions that
are being made -- for example, the decision on the new procedure for the
election of regional leaders in the Russian Federation.

But those who are opposed are richer than those who are in favor -- they
have the opportunity to spread their opinion in the media, and we often do
not pay the attention to that. I'd like to draw your attention to the fact
that the leaders of the regions of the Russian Federation will not be
appointed by the President. Their canvases will be presented, will be
submitted to regional parliaments that are elected through secret ballot by
all the citizens. This is, in essence, a system of the electoral college,
which is used, on the national level, in the United States, and it is not
considered undemocratic, is it?

We discussed these issues at length and some of the ideas -- I wouldn't
say, advice -- but some of the ideas that I heard from my partner I respect
a lot. And I believe that some of his ideas could be taken into account in
my work, and I will pay due attention to them, that's for sure. Some other
ideas, I will not comment on. Thank you.

Q To follow up on the issue of democratic institutions, President Bush
recently stated that the press in Russia is not free. What is this lack of
freedom all about? Your aides probably mentioned to you that our media,
both electronic and our printed media -- full coverage of the
manifestations and protests in our country. Our regional and national media
often criticize the government institution. What about you? Why don't you
talk a lot about violations of the rights of journalists in the United
States, about the fact that some journalists have been fired? Or do you
prefer to discuss this in private with your American colleague?

PRESIDENT BUSH: I don't know what journalists you're referring to. Any of
you all still have your jobs? No, I -- look, I think it's important any
viable democracy has got a free and active press. Obviously, if you're a
member of the Russian press, you feel like the press is free. And that's --
feel that way? Well, that's good. (Laughter.) But I -- I talked to Vladimir
about that. And he -- he wanted to know about our press. I said, nice bunch
of folks. And he wanted to know about, as you mentioned, the subject of
somebody getting fired. People do get fired in American press. They don't
get fired by government, however. They get fired by their editors or they
get fired by their producers, or they get fired by the owners of a
particular outlet or network.

But a free press is important. And it is -- it is an important part of any
democracy. And if you're a member of the press corps and you feel
comfortable with the press in Russia, I think that is a pretty interesting
observation for those of us who don't live in Russia to listen to.

But no question, whether it be in America or anywhere else, the sign of a
healthy and vibrant society is one in where there's an active press corps.
Obviously, there has got to be constraints. There's got to be truth. People
have got to tell the truth, and if somebody violates the truth, then those
who own a particular newspaper or those who are in charge of particular
electronic station need to hold people to account. The press -- the
capacity of the press to hold people to account also depends on their
willingness to self-examine at times when they're wrong. And that happens
on occasion in America. And that's -- that's an important part of
maintaining a proper relationship between government and press.

I can assure you that the folks here are constantly trying to hold me to
account for decisions I make and how I make decisions. I'm comfortable with
that. It's part of the checks and balances of a democracy.

And so I'm glad to hear you're editorial comment, so to speak, on your
comfort with the situation of the press corps in the Federation of Russia.

PRESIDENT PUTIN: First of all, what do you mean when you say, I keep silent
-- or we keep silent about this or that problem? First of all, I'm not the
minister of propaganda. Second, we discuss all issues in absolute openness.
As George said, today we discussed this issue, as well, with regard to
Russia and the United States. But what is absolutely obvious is that in the
United States, there are a lot of mechanisms to uphold the freedom of the
press. And as far as the fact that there is some kind of friction between
the media and the government, there is an ongoing debate, an ongoing
critical debate going on. There is a lot of criticism coming from the media
with respect to the government. This is an manifestation of democracy. What
you mentioned about the comments in the media of the actions of the Russian
government is testimony to the fact that we do have freedom of the press.
Although we're being criticized often of that, this is not the case.

When we discuss these issues, absolutely frankly, we, and I, in particular,
do not think that this has to be pushed to the foreground, that new
problems should be created from nothing. And I do not think that we should
jeopardize the Russian-American relationship, because we're interested in
the development of this relationship. We are paying close attention to all
the comments of the press or opposing forces, but our responsibility is to,
in spite of all these problems of which there are plenty, our
responsibility is to positively develop the Russian-American relationship.

I would like to thank the President of the United States for his
constructive dialogue that we've had today. Thank you very much.
(Applause.)

END 6:24 P.M. (Local)

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