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Skriven 2006-06-01 22:11:00 av Robert E Starr JR (1648.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: JMS: Crusade question
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"Joseph DeMartino" <jdemarti@bellsouth.net> wrote in message 
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>> Which is why I dont understand why he didnt play it the same way with
> Crusade. I understand that there was the notion of the mind rape, which
> I
> gather revoulted JMS, but I reckon he would have handled that in a
> proper
> way. <
>
> Actually the reason you don't understand it is that you haven't done
> your homework so you don't really KNOW anything.  Yet you keep posting
> as if you do.
>
Anything?



> There was no "mind rape" issue with "Crusade"  TNT basically wanted
> Gideon to permit the *physical rape* of a member of the crew in order
> to gain leverage over an EarthForce official.  And that my not have
> been the most egregious example of their "ideas" for the show.
>
> The TNT notes were bad, they got worse, and the whole thing was a
> deliberate effort to *force* JMS into a position where he would quit
> the show or pull the plug on it - which is what eventually happened.
> TNT had decided either just before production on "Crusade" started or
> shortly thereafter that the show was wrong for the network and that the
> deal had been a mistake.  But if *they* halted production, they'd still
> owe Warner Bros. based on the contract they signed.  So they just made
> the situation so impossible that JMS (with the backing of Warner Bros.)
> finally called it quits.
>
> All of this has been quite extensively documented on the intert.  Much
> of the information was at least hinted at long before JMS was in a
> position to speak on the matter publicly, but afterwards he confirmed
> that some of the fan-researched material (including some that I had dug
> up and posted at the time of the "TNT memo" leak) was accurate, in
> broad outline if not in every detail regarding how bad the notes were
> and how bizarred TNT's actions seemed to be.  It only came out much
> later that TNT's analysis of "B5" S5's ratings had convinced the powers
> that be in Atlanta that they needed to pull the plug on "Crusade" as
> quickly as possible.  (They had discovered that "B5" was adding
> virtually no new viewers to their audience.  While the series and the
> TV movies did well in the ratings, the pattern was that regular TNT
> viewers would switch to another channel while the SF show was on, while
> "B5" fans would tune to TNT *only* for "B5", then change channels as
> soon as the NBA or wrestling or some western started up.  The "B5"
> ratings were a wash.  TNT didn't want that with a series that they were
> involved with from the start.)
>
> So you're totally off-base with your read on "Crusade", which might
> also explain your posts in the Mongoose thread, which also seem to be
> about some *other* guy named Joe Straczynski.
>

My God, what an arrogant attitude. Ok, you know it all, where as I clearly 
know nothing, as you lord ship says. Im so damn sorry.

I see now what others say about this NG. Try to say some thing different or 
off piste and you get slaughtered. I give up.Sorry to get it wrong and sorry 
to dare to critisise your God.

I love B5 with a passion, but you guys really put me off. I'll sod off and 
leave you all to your closed shop love in.

Bye

AC
                                                                               
                                              
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