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Skriven 2007-04-26 12:33:52 av Starlord (410.babylon5)
     Kommentar till en text av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Ärende: Re: Relative ship sizes in the B5 universe (and others)
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how much for the Vorlon planet killer?


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"Vorlonagent" <nojtspam@otfresno.com> wrote in message 
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> "Christophe Bachmann" <Chris_CII@Compuserve.com> wrote in message 
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> Vorlonagent a écrit :
>>> Personally, I think someone substituted meters for feet somewhere, 
>>> because B5 ships have cavernous amounts of volume for the number of crew 
>>> they have on board.
>>>
>>>
>>Evidently there is not much one can say about realism of spaceships, but 
>>if one looks up the sizes of big modern ships like the Emma Mærsk with a 
>>LOA of 397 m (1302') and a crew of 13
>
> Civilin ships and warships are an apples to oranges comparison.
>
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>> or even big submarines like the ????? class (NATO : Typhoon) with 175 m 
>> LOA (574') and 163 men, laid down in 1977 when computers were in infancy 
>> and every control needed to be manned 24/7 one can just consider that the 
>> starfleets want to get more armament, fuel, and endurance, needing a very 
>> little manpower per volume.
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> The Soviets built smaller ships for the same role than the US did.  They 
> minimized space needed for damage control and repair.
>
>
>> Just compare with Iowa class battleships, layed down in 1940 with a LOA 
>> of 270 m (887") and a crew of 151 officers and 2637 enlisted.
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> OTOH we have the Nimitz class carrier.
> 1092 feet long (333 meters)
> Crew: 3200 before we even talk about the air wing (another 2800).
>
> Now let's talk about the effect of size on volume and mass.  An 
> Omega-class destroyer is 1500 meters long.  If we want to super-size a 
> Nimtiz class carrier into that range, we're talking 4.5 times the size. 
> That means 4.5x the length width and height for  91x the interior space, 
> 91x the mass.  The Typhoon class would need an 8.6x multiplier to get to 
> the same size as the Omega, which would mean 636 times the mass and 
> volume.  It's safe to say the crew is increasing too, by many, many 
> multiples, but dunno if it strictly multiplies with volume.
>
> The resources the US used/will use to build its entire fleet of 10 
> nimitz-class carriers would only buy Earth 1/9 of a single Omega-class 
> destroyer.  Let's not even talk about a Warlock-class destroyer.  This is 
> an insane amount of ship to expect a crew of 1150 or so to handle
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