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Skriven 2006-06-03 16:25:00 av Robert E Starr JR (1890.babylon5)
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 21:04:29 +0000 (UTC), Rob Perkins
<rperkins@usa.net> wrote:

>Paul Harper wrote:
>
>> Your intent is unknown and unknowable. It's your words I am
>> questioning. 
>> 
>> You said, in effect, leave it to the kids. I said that's not good
>> enough and asked why we couldn't do something..
>
>No, I didn't. I expressed confidence that (at the very least) my 
>comparatively wealthy kids and their peers would have the moral center 
>and the ability to solve the problems *they* will encounter, not the 
>ones I leave behind for them.
>
>But you seem to be off on a tirade about how little *anyone's* effort is 
>going to be to avert some apocalypse-of-John-scale upheaval even before 
>Hillary Clinton can breathe out the words "announce my candicacy for the 
>  office of President".
>
>I have to ask, then, what is it you want *me* to do about the 
>environment? It's a practical question, asked in great earnest. Goes out 
>to Amy as well, actually: If you don't believe you're doing enough, and 
>I'm not doing enough, what's enough? What do we do next at the micro level?
>
>I will tell you in advance, though, I'm not killing anyone for it. :-)

Hi, this is Amy.

OK, I lied, but I wanted to make another point.

There really isn't much you can do at the micro level. Because even if
you adopt an entirely green lifestyle -- and at this point, you'd have
to convert your car to running off French fry grease to do that -- it
would be the proverbial drop in the bucket.

This requires government action. It's something we have to do as a
group, as a nation -- more than that, something that the entire world
has to do. But they aren't going to do it until we do.

But when we do -- the Europeans will play along, because they've been
way ahead of us on this issue and they'll be freed of the worry that
we'll gain an economic advantage over them if we save a few pennies on
fuel.

China and India will go along if we and the Europeans make it clear
that they have to if they want to keep trading with us. And they very
much want to do that.

The third world will, I imagine, need help, but they aren't the main
contributor to global warming -- we are. If we're wise, we'll pay them
for the carbon we continue to put in the air and the damage we're
doing to their countries, some of which will be entirely under water
thanks to our SUV's, and give them credits for maintaining their
forests, which are carbon sinks.

Then too, if we reduce demand for oil (and the US uses /25% of it/),
we'll drive its price down, meaning that they'll be spending less on
energy and fertilizer.

-- 
Josh

"I'm not going to play like I've been a person who's spent hours involved with
foreign policy.
I am who I am." - George W. Bush
                                                                               
                     
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