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Skriven 2007-08-18 06:39:15 av Dennis \(Icarus\) (3748.babylon5)
     Kommentar till en text av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Ärende: Re: Newsgroup back!
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<StarFuryG7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1187415793.495243.292010@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > StarFur...@aol.com wrote:
> > > On Aug 16, 8:09 pm, Amy Guskin <aisl...@fjordstone.com> wrote:
> > >> Yeah, but you've been insisting all through this thread that you have
> > >> confirmations from Google that your message has been "submitted" to
this
> > >> newsgroup.
> >
> > >         Excuse me--I would be happy to post the confirmation message
> > > again, as it makes quite clear that that is in fact where it has been
> > > submitted according to their system, yes.
>
> On Aug 17, 8:38 pm, Matt Ion <soundy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That means exactly nothing.  "The system" may only refer to Google's
> > NNTP server.  It may or may not mean that for a moderated group, it's
> > even gone to Google's SMTP server.  It very likely DOES NOT mean that
> > it's been sent successfully to Jay's SMTP server.
>
>         Well, Gee--I guess it means absolutely nothing then, even
> though Goole Groups is telling me that it's been sent tothe moderators
> of this group for review. I wonder why it would do that --perhaps to
> throw me off, eh? Yes, of course--now I get it --Google Groups has NO
> IDEA where it's forwarding posted messages to despite what it's
> informing the poster of.

I take it you've really not been reading the replies.
Folks have been sayingt hat google groups does have an idea where the
message has been sent.
It just may not be correct.
Further, it may not get an acknowlegement that the message was indeed
received by Jay's server.
When you put a letter in a postal box, you've no idea that it wa
successfully delivered until the person to who whom you've written replies.

>         And again, this has NOTHING to do with whether or not it's
> actually been received at Jay's and/or Cheryl's end. That's another
> matter entirely, but hey--by all means try to misconstrue what I've

Oh, ok, so you do realize this.
So whats the problem again?

> been saying deliberately for your own nefarious purpose. It does not
> however mean that I have been unclear, lacked an understanding, or
> stated something that I never supposedly stated, regardless of how you
> or Amy try to frame it.

Reread your first paragraph, above.

Pick a meaning:
a) You think google groups message means that the post has been sent to the
moderators for review.
b) You don't thing google groups message means that the post has been sent
to the moderators for review.

Which one is it?

>
> > I just posted a reply to this message from Google Groups... all it does
> > is show me a little yellow box saying "Your post was successful."  That
> > doesn't mean anything - all it means is that the web interface has
> > successfully sent it to the NNTP server.  Nothing else has come in to my
> > gmail.com inbox, no "confirmation" of any sort.
>
>         Who said anything about anything going to an Inbox? The
> confirmation message appears immediately on the very next Page you end
> up at after clicking Send.
>         And once again, the "confirmation" doesn't necessarily mean
> anything other than that the post was registered with Google Groups as
> having been sent along. Whether or not it actually ends up at its
> intended destination is another matter entirely -- but we are talking
> about a success-to-failure ratio here, meaning that the vast majority
> of the messages posted end up going to their intended destination, and
> that the system therefore knows where to send them.
>
>         Capisce?

<snip>
>
>         I questioned one post from last night which didn't appear --
> count them: _one_, so I suggest you go back and have a look at where
> this conversation actually originated if your mind needs refreshing.
>

So that means you've had a very high success to failure ratio then?

Dennis


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