Text 17422, 116 rader
Skriven 2007-08-18 21:48:58 av StarFuryG7 (3899.babylon5)
  Kommentar till text 17387 av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (3864.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Newsgroup back!
===========================
On Aug 18, 9:41 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <ala_dir_di...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> <StarFur...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187483089.834746.142330@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 18, 7:38 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <ala_dir_di...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > <StarFur...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:1187474168.428462.214320@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > <StarFur...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web
> > > > > > > "The Web was created in 1989 by the Englishman Sir Tim
> Berners-Lee
> > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > Belgian Robert Cailliau working at CERN in Geneva, Switzerland."
>
> > > > > >          Well, since we're citing Wikipedia (as one other person
> did
> > > > > > here already besides) allow me to as well:
>
> > > > > > "Usenet (USEr NETwork) is a global, decentralized, distributed
> > > > > > Internet discussion system that evolved from a general purpose
> UUCP
> > > > > > architecture of the same name. It was conceived by Duke University
> > > > > > graduate students Tom Truscott and Jim Ellis in 1979. Users read
> and
> > > > > > post e-mail-like messages (called "articles" or "posts") to one or
> > > > > > more of a number of categories, called newsgroups. Usenet
> resembles
> > > > > > bulletin board systems (BBS) in most respects. It resembled the
> first
> > > > > > earliest forms of Internet forums."
> > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
>
> > > > On Aug 18, 7:42 am, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <ala_dir_di...@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > And this proves your contention that Usenet is "the web" in what
> manner?
>
> > > >         You're kidding, right?
>
> > > >         Look, it's not my intent to in any way be sarcastic here, but
> > > > you did see the "Internet" specifically referred to twice in that
> > > > cited passage I take it.
>
> > > What I was questioning was your assertion that "usenet is 'the web'".
>
> > > > > The web is different from Usenet.
>
> > > Good that you see this.
>
> >         I didn't write that.
>
> >         Usenet is a part of the Internet - It has always been
> > considered a part of the Internet. If I might quote from the Wiki
> > portion that I cited once again, which makes this quite clear, it
> > states as follows:
>
> > > > "Usenet (USEr NETwork) is a global, decentralized, distributed
> > > > Internet discussion system
>
> I know this. I've read the entry.
>
>
>
> >         Okay? I mean, you really need not look any further than that
> > for the purposes of this discussion. It's clear.
>
> > > However, what you wrote was the
>
> following:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated/m
> sg/...
>
> > > <quote>
> > >         Actually, you're quite wrong on that point. Usenet *is* "the
> > > Web."
>
> >         I know what I wrote, and I stand by it. If it isn't the Web,
> > or an integral part of the Web, how are people communicating via it?
>
> Simply having a web-based client is no different than having a newsreader
> asa front-end.
>
>
>
> >         Look, this isn't really that difficult, and people can split
> > hairs over it if they want to, but in my view this is a pretty good
> > example of how I've said one thing here, provided data which supports
> > it even, and then had someone try and make it sound as though it's an
> > orange rather than an apple.
>
> >         You can call Usenet its own unique system if you want to --
> > technical there's something to that, but the fact remains that it is
> > merged with the Internet, and is technically a part of it, and pretty
> > much always has been, bottom line.
>
> I've never questioned that. What I questioned was your statement that Usenet
> *is* "the Web".
>

        It's incorporated into the Web, it's a part of the Web ...yes,
it's the Web; Not strictly in a sense by itself, in and of itself, but
its platform is interconnected right into the Web itself, and it
exists in conjunction with it.
        As I said, we can split hairs over it, but saying it's "not he
Web" isn't accurate either. It's very much a part of it.
--- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32
 * Origin: Time Warp of the Future BBS - Home of League 10 (1:14/400)