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Skriven 2007-08-26 02:00:31 av Wendy of NJ (4221.babylon5)
     Kommentar till en text av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Ärende: Re: Newsgroup back!
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On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:53:33 -0500, "Carl" <cengman7@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Wendy of NJ" <voxwoman@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:2le0d3h2i18ajsgmt7nbscl0gkrrcdith5@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:53:52 -0500, "Carl" <cengman7@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:<snip>
>
>>>I've mentioned before that I've had women scream a tirade at me because
>>>I opened the door for them because I was demeaning them.
>>
>> Well, maybe those women were also drunk/on drugs at the time. They
>> certainly weren't properly socialized.
>
>The times it's happened before I just blew it off or decided to smile.
>That sometimes seems to make it worse for some reason, they take
>my attitude as a failure on their part to properly condition me or 
>something.
>
>The most extreme of cases that I'm thinking of was at an entrance
>to a professional building with a woman that gave me the impression
>of someone accustomed to dominating business meetings.
>
>This one particular woman became particularly abusive, as though
>she felt she had to establish herself as some kind of superior to me.
>Strange attitude, actually.
>
>
><snip>
>
>>>You're suggesting that someone has to be perfect in order to criticize
>>>someone else about anything?
>>
>> No, but I *AM* suggesting that someone be SOBER AND DRUG-FREE before I
>> take whatever comes out of their pie-holes seriously. Rantings of
>> drunks and druggies are more suitable for an episode of "Cops" rather
>> than a politically-oriented opinion talk show.
>>
>> People get really weird (and often very paranoid) ideas into their
>> heads while under the influence. And I don't think policy should be
>> made (or suggested) by those who are under the influence. (Ever hear
>> someone once they have sobered up recanting pretty much everything
>> they said/did the previous evening?)
>
>The women that I am referring to were not drunk.  It's happened several 
>times.

I was referring back to Limbaugh in that bit.

>
>> But then, I don't think convicted felons should get a public soapbox,
>> either. *cough* Ollie North *cough*
>>
>
>I thought his conviction was overturned.  Maybe not.  I dont' recall.

He may have recieved a pardon. I don't remember. I do think that many
people got away with murder over all of that, however.

>
>If you're expecting all speakers to be perfect, then there will be a lot 
>more
>silence in the world...which would be a good thing, but not likely to 
>happen.
>
>He gets his say.  Everyone gets their say, they just don't have a right to
>be heard.  *IF* what someone has to say is interesting enough to others,
>someone gives that person a bigger soap box.  The more people, the bigger 
>the
>soap box.
>
>You may or may not agree with those opinions, but that is not a
>valid basis by which to determine whether someone's view
>should be heard.  I would argue that it's *much* more important to
>listen to the opinions of people that you disagree with than it is
>to listen to others that share your beliefs.
>
>Richard Nixon...for all his faults (and he had a lot of them) was still,
>years after he left office someone with a more informed and coherent
>view of world politics than most of our current political leaders of
>either party.  His actions did not invalidate his opinions.

And Reagan's presidency made me appreciate Nixon more than I did when
he was in office :-)

-Wendy
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