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Skriven 2006-06-07 14:07:00 av Robert E Starr JR (2424.babylon5)
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>> On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 23:53:22 -0400, Carl wrote
(in article <1P6dnUZGqsfm0BvZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com>):

> 
> "Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message 
> news:0001HW.C0ABBCA600686A73F0407530@news.verizon.net...
>>>> On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 19:17:33 -0400, Mark Alexander Bertenshaw wrote
>> (in article <44860cf6$0$98942$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>):
>> 
>>> 
>>> I think that it is essential that as many people as possible actually
>>> understand what happened as possible.  The other day, I accidentally 
>>> found a
>>> website which purported to be a forum for the discovery of the "truth" 
>>> about
>>> what really happened to the World Trade Centre.  This stuff was utterly
>>> unbelievable.  People were seriously saying that a conspiracy of
>>> Neo-Conservatives and Zionists in the government had caused the planes to
>>> hit the towers so that they could get involved in Afghanistan and Iraq.
>>> After further searching, it turned out that there were a great deal more
>>> websites like this, and apparently there is a film called "Loose Change"
>>> which was supporting the fantasy claims of the self-proclaimed 
>>> "Truthers".
>>> There are some truly sad people out there who have watched far too much
>>> X-Files and have absorbed far too many pseudo-left wing received 
>>> opinions.
>>> Now, I don't know how many people believe in this crap, but it terrifies 
>>> me
>>> that there are people of such credulity around. <<
>> 
>> Mark, are you making judgements about "Loose Change" without having seen 
>> it?
>> You can download it for free, here:
>> 
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801
>> 
>> I'm not saying I buy _all_ of it; but I definitely buy _some_ of it.  And 
>> I
>> was not even a fan of X-Files...  A handful of unexplainable things in a
>> tragedy of this scale, I could accept - life is often stranger than 
>> fiction,
>> after all.  But the unexplainable - and physically impossible! - things 
>> just
>> keep piling up and piling up and piling up.  I should mention that I 
>> hadn't
>> heard of this film before a few weeks ago, and was vocally critical of 
>> 9/11
>> conspiracy nuts myself - but then I kept hearing the film's name dropped 
>> here
>> and there by some mainstream radio personalities, bloggers, etc., so I 
>> took a
>> look for myself.
>> 
>> The more I see of our government in action, the less I'm willing to say 
>> that
>> I believe, incontrovertibly, that they could not have had any knowledge 
>> of,
>> or complicity with, the killing of their own citizens.
>> 
>> Amy
>> 
> 
> I heard that there's video that adds annotations to "Loose Change"
> with countering information. I don't remember the name of it. <<

There's actually a lot of anti-Loose Change sites and resources out there.  I 
took a serious look at one of the longest, most comprehensive sites - it 
basically posts a transcript of the entire film, with comments in a different 
color font - and found that a lot of their criticism and objections didn't 
address anything of substance.  But as I said, I don't put stock in _all_ of 
what I saw therein.  Still, it was worth my time to watch the whole thing, 
and even my husband, unbelievably, sat through it...he doesn't watch ANY 
television (except the occasional Doctor Who) and hardly ever goes to movies 
with me, and is extremely rational, bright, not gullible, and also not 
readily swayed by nonsense.  As I said to Mark, I encourage you to take a 
look at it before you dismiss it.  It's kind of funny that people who haven't 
even seen it are pointing me to supposed debunkings - how can you be so sure 
you object to the content without actually having seen it?

Amy
   
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