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Text 73, 154 rader
Skriven 2004-11-14 15:34:27 av Steve Asher (3:800/432.0)
     Kommentar till text 69 av LEE LOFASO (1:123/140)
Ärende: Noachide Transformati 1/3
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Mulling over LEE LOFASO to STEVE ASHER 11 Nov 2004

G'day Lee...

>SA>There is a program under way to transform the USA (and other
>SA>Western nations into a society based upon the seven "Noachide Laws",
>SA>which among other thing will result in the abolition of Christmas,
>SA>and the elimination (execution) of Christians.

>LL>Oh, great.  Another Jewish conspiracy theory.  Or is it fact?  :)

SA>Unfortunately, it is fact. :(

 LL> I ran across a web page a while back concerning those "laws". The
 LL> history goes back thousands of years.

Yes, it is purported to go back to the beginning, to or through Noah,
but essentially recorded in the Babylonian Talmud.

>SA>There is not a minute to waste. Jews everywhere, unite!

>LL>Just what Hitler feared...

SA>Actually, Hitler was an accomplice, for a time, much as the Antichrist
SA>will be accepted by both Jews and Noachides as Messiah, but will turn
SA>on them, & seek to destroy them.

 LL> Hitler believed he was doing God's work.  And the German people, as
 LL> well as other Germanic peoples, believed him.  Hitler viewed
 LL> himself as being a good Christian, and always considered himself as
 LL> being a cultural Catholic, having been born Catholic, raised
 LL> Catholic, serving as an altar boy, and "protecting" the Church as
 LL> leader of Germany. 

Exactly, and Bush and other gentiles "pushing" the Noachide Laws will
see them as being compatible with the "Ten Commandments", and no threat
to Christians or others who do not agree to live by them, until it is
too late.

SA>However, the Jews & Noachides have set the stage for the rejection of
SA>the divinity of Jesus Christ, and prayers to Him as idolatry, as per
SA>the "Jewish Message To Mankind" below. The US Congress has gone along
SA>for the ride, by enacting laws that seek to "return the world to the
SA>moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noachide Laws".

 LL> Most Christians are unaware of what those "Seven Noachide Laws"
 LL> are, or what they imply.  But members of Congress always obey the
 LL> first law of politics - the goal of which is to get re-elected.  By
 LL> citing "family values", or "traditional values", or "moral values",
 LL> congresscritters are able to paint themselves as more "moral" than
 LL> their opponents. 

They did it very successfully in the last US election, and to a lesser
extent in the Aust election a few weeks earlier, where "Family First"
took votes by running "pro-family" candidates who will demand "family
impact statements" on all proposed legislation. They will have enough
Senate seats to ensure that the Government will listen to them if it
wants bills to pass in the senate.

SA>---------------------------------------------------------------------

SA>A JEWISH MESSAGE FOR MANKIND

SA>Many non-Jews, especially those who come to Israel and Jerusalem, are
SA>interested in what, if anything, Judaism has to say to them, and how
SA>Jews regard them. Jewish tradition has a clear response.

SA>(snip)

SA>But Universal man is not forgotten by God-- his redemption is the
SA>raison d'etre of the Jewish people. Our tradition, based on God's
SA>addresses to Adam, Noah and Company, subsumes the rules of living for
SA>every man under the rubric of the 7 laws of Noah. Any gentile who
SA>accepts and fulfills them is righteous and has a share in the world to
SA>come. No formal religious ritual or liturgy is required, tho shared
SA>traditions and texts and meeting together for prayer and study may be
SA>necessary to build a viable Noachide society. In March 1991 the U.S.
SA>Congress passed and Pres. Bush signed into law a resolution praising
SA>Noachism as the oldest human religion.

 LL> George H.W. Bush referred to creating a "thousand points of light".
 LL> Could this have been a reference to the 7 laws of Noah?

This is a topic in itself! I knew GHWB had referred to the "thousand points",
and was aware of its "New Age" / "New World Order" connotations, but I wasn't
aware until I just searched that it (a) is linked to Theosophy and Hinduism,
and (b) is a result of a 1988 campaign slogan calling for a "thousand points
of light" to rejuvenate America through an "Office of National Service" 
("White House Points of Light Office"). 

Thanks, Lee, I feel a bit ill :) - but it gives me some more dots to connect,
like...

=========================================================================
October 1991
President Bush Honors Human Service Alliance

Members of the Human Service Alliance (HSA) of North Carolina in the
southern USA were delighted to receive an August 10th letter from
President George Bush recognizing them as his 532nd "Daily Point of
Light." In fulfillment of his 1988 campaign slogan calling for "A
thousand points of light" to rejuvenate America, the president has
been locating and identifying individuals and organizations
"voluntarily taking direct and consequential action to solve drug
abuse, illiteracy, inadequate education, homelessness, hunger, AIDS or
other serious social problems in their own community," according to a
White House press release.

A February, 1991, article in HINDUISM TODAY on the HSA profiled their
remarkable program of volunteer work with the terminally ill,
mediation project and respite care program, as well as explored their
philosophical roots in eastern belief. HSA spiritual leader Derwyn
Lackey draws upon his own extensive background of study and exposure
to Hinduism and specifically the works of Alice Bailey (in the line of
theosophy) to guide the group. The HSA main center has a Siva temple
for its members.

(snip / snip)

Source: http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1991/10/1991-10-09.shtml



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Cheers, Steve..

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