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Skriven 2006-12-24 02:10:06 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Michael Loo
Ärende: Re: various beefs 734
=============================
 -=> On 12-23-06  16:00,  Michael Loo <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about various beefs 734 <=-

 ML> In spicy dishes at buffets, you will note that there are
 ML> usually whole hot peppers of a contrasting color stuck in a
 ML> totally bland (generally oversweetened and over MSGed)

   I also note that many places have a bowl of red chili sauce at the
   end of the row -- just for masochists.

 ML> substrate. I avoid tasting these dishes but tend to visit
 ML> them to harvest the hot peppers, saving the rest of the
 ML> clientele from itself.

  And sometimes you even get donations of same from your table mates:-}}
 
 ML> On the shellfish and appetizer table, there was a dish of
 ML> cold green-lipped mussels in red curry: these had a bit of
 ML> fire (unlike the chicken), and the freshness was exemplary.

 DS> Well -- maybe this was the exception that proves the rule:-}}

 ML> Okay, I know you're saying that with a nudge nudge and a wink wink,

  OK -- you caught me using a hackneyed phrase:-}}

 ML> but exceptio probat regulam (the original Latin saying) is not an
 ML> easy schoolboy translate of cognates. It means "the exception
 ML> tests (probes, not proves), the rule." The difficulty lies in the
 ML> dual meaning of probare - in Lewis and Short, meaning I. is tests,
 ML> puts to judgment, etc., whereas meaning II. is approves etc.
 ML> Same with the English word prove - which can mean test or probe
 ML> OR accept something true as tested.

   You sound like my high school English teacher.   I expect that she
   was still saying things like that up until the day she retired from
   teaching last year.

 DS> When our kids were young, the school they went to had an annual fund
 DS> raiser which was a silent auction combined with an bull roast and
 DS> oyster bar.   It is about the only time I got my fill of oysters,
 DS> and was torn between the pit beef and and oysters.

 ML> Hey, this was supposed to be a FUND RAISER, not an opportunity
 ML> for you to make up for the year's tuition and schoolbooks. [g]

  Note that I said auction as well.   The auction was done of things
  that people donated -- often used but of a much better quality than
  you might send to Good Will or Salvation Army,  sometimes new stuff --
  especially from businesses.  People also donated home made craft items
  and services -- such dinner for four at their restaurant.

  You paid a fixed fee for attending and then could have all the beef,
  oysters and side dishes you wished to consume.   The tended to finish
  off with a live auction of some bigger ticket items.

 ML> If I'd been there, the school might have had to close up shop.
 ML> I wouldn't be torn between those two delights; I'd take them
 ML> both.

   Ah -- but space for consumption is limited.   I did take them both.
 
 ML> "roast beef" stands up north, only it may be a bit smokier; the
 ML> stuff at the pit beef store you took me to wasn't great, and

   And the "ends and pieces" were a dismal disappointment!   We like it
   because that is the one type of place where you can actually get rare
   beef.   Gail and I recently visited another one near Security Mall
   (west of Baltimore, just outside the Beltway).   A friend had touted
   it as the best he knew of.   We liked that one as well.  It is a
   real "hole in the wall" place.  Someday, if the occasion presents
   itself, we'll take you to it for trial.   We also went to one that I
   had seen favorably mentioned in a Washington Post article.   It was
   about halfway from our house to Westminster, on Route 26 between 32
   and 97.  IMO, it was not very good.  The beef was dry and without
   much flavor.  Gail had a sliced pit ham that was better -- but not
   good.

 ML> the one Carol and I went to in Odenton was pretty bad, though.
 ML> Another thing about Maryland pit beef is that when I've had it
 ML> it's usually cooked over a gas grill with wood chips.

  I'm not sure how the place at Security does theirs.   Another place
  mentioned in that Washington Post article was near the intersection of
  routes 100 and 1, just north of Sysco.   We went there with you once
  and had something.   I don't recall it being all that great, but the
  name has changed and so maybe something is now different.

 ML> Now if someone were to come to town and build a proper barbecue
 ML> pit and put wood and briskets in it, that would be front-page news.
 ML> Unfortunately, it's hard to get to Luling, Texas, where reputedly
 ML> are some of the best bbq pits in the known world.

   Yep .

 ML> Title: Cajun Prime Rib

 :-}}  I almost posted this myself in the past day or two.

  For the past year or so, we have started buying and cooking prime rib
  roasts (although I doubt that they are prime).   I usually cook it to
  about 120 in the center, slice off the two outside slices for first
  night's meal and then might slice into steaks to quickly sear on a
  cast iron skillet for second night meal.  Finally, some of it ends up
  in the wok as beef and black beans.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
 
      Title: Cajun Cabbage With Andouille Or Smoked Sausage
 Categories: Cajun, Spicy, Vegetable, Sausage
      Yield: 8 servings
 
MMMMM----------------SEASONING MIX (OR SUBSTITUTE---------------------
  2 1/4 ts Salt
  1 1/2 ts Sweet paprika
      1 ts White pepper
    1/2 ts Onion powder
    1/2 ts Garlic powder
    1/2 ts Ground red pepper
           (preferably cayenne)
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    1/2 ts Dried thyme leaves
    1/4 ts Dried sweet basil leaves

MMMMM--------------------------MAIN VEG-------------------------------
      4 tb Unsalted butter
      2 c  Julienned onions (see Note)
     10    Packed cups shredded
           Cabbage
      1 c  Basic Chicken Stock (recipe
           Follows)
      2    Bay leaves, halved
      3 c  Unpeeled julienned apples
           (see Note)
      3 tb Dark brown sugar
      1 lb Andouille smoked sausage
           (preferred) or
           Any other good pure smoked
           Pork sausage
           As Polish sausage (kielbasa)
           Cut into
    1/2    -inch pieces

MMMMM--------------------BASIC CHICKEN STOCK-------------------------
     10 c  Cold water (see Note)
  1 1/2    To 2 lbs. chicken backs,
           Necks, giblets (excluding
           Liver) and/or bones
      1 md Onion, unpeeled and
           Quartered
      1    Rib celery
      1 lg Clove garlic, unpeeled and
           Quartered
 
  NOTE: Julienned strips should be  1/8xl/8x2 inches.
  
  In a small bowl, combine the seasoning mix ingredients; mix well.Set
  aside.
  
  Melt the butter in a 4-quart saucepan over high heat.  Add the onions
  and saute about 2 minutes, stirring occasionally.Add the cabbage,
  then 1/2 cup of the stock, the bay leaves and the seasoning mix; stir
  well.Cook 5 minutes, stirring occasionally.Stir in the apples and
  cook 15 minutes, stirring occasion ally.Stir in the sugar and the
  remaining  1/2 cup stock; mix well. Cook about 2 minutes, stirring
  occasionally.Add the andouille and cook and stir for 5 minutes more.
  Remove from heat, discard bay leaves and serve immediately.
  
  FOR STOCK --
  NOTE: Always start with cold water enough to cover the other stock
  ingredients.
  
  Place all the ingredients in a large saucepan; bring to a boil over
  high heat, then gently simmer at least 4 hours, preferably 8,
  replenishing the water as needed to keep about  1 quart of liquid in
  the pan.  Strain, cool and refrigerate until ready to use.  (Note:
  Remember, if you are short on time, that using a stock simmered 20 or
  30 minutes is far better than using just water in any recipe.)
  
  Makes about  1 quart.
  From: Sandee Eveland                  Date: 27 Jul 95
  National Cooking Conference Echo.
 
MMMMM



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