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Skriven 2009-10-25 10:23:06 av hap newsom (1:124/311)
     Kommentar till en text av Dave Drum
Ärende: Re: Beisbol
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Hullo Dave!
-> 
->  -> I like baseball as a sport just fine. Baseball as a business sucks the
-> bitter
->  -> carrot!!!
-> 
->  hn> Baseball has been a business since the beginning.
-> 
-> No. It hasn't. 
-> 
Yes, I'm afraid it has.


"    The first recorded baseball contest took place a year later, in 1846. 
Cartwright and his Knickerbocker Base Ball Club of New York City lost to the 
New York Baseball Club in a game at the Elysian Fields, in Hoboken, New 
Jersey. These amateur games became more frequent and more popular. In 
1857, a convention of amateur teams was called to discuss rules and other 
issues. Twenty five teams from the northeast sent delegates. The following 
year, they formed the National Association of Base Ball Players, the first 
organized baseball league. In its first year of operation, the league supported

itself by occasionally charging fans for admission. The future looked very 
bright."  
 http://www.rpi.edu/~fiscap/history_files/history1.htm


->  hn> Nothing has ever appeared on the horizon that
->  hn> will change that. Even the minor leagues are
->  hn> a business, and even little leagues need
->  hn> sponsors. 
->  
-> Why do they need sponsors at the little league level? I understand that
-> sponsors are permitted - by the parents. The kids could care less. 
Competitive
-> parents get marketed into buying "latest & greatest" ideas, etc. When I 
played
-> little league our team was sponsored by a local beanery. But, there were 
two
-> teams in the league (one pretty good - the other sucked) who were just 
simply
-> the kids and their parents getting the equipment and uniforms and going 
out to
-> play. Our sponsor bought us uniform shirts with his business on the back 
like
-> "Chico's Bail Bonds" and the team name on the front. We were "Bills' Toasty
-> Tigers". IIRC the two "unsponsored" teams were the Chiefs and the Angels 
(a
-> definite misnomer).
->
Nope they had sponsers; the parents in 
your case it seems, but someone had to
put up the $$ for uniforms, equipment,
AND fees to the little league organization.
Which while it's "non profit" still has a 
very large operating budget. Also Umpires
have to be paid, maybe at some point
in the past umps were "volunteers" but
I don't know of any who are these days.
even for softball games.
Just because the kids played for the 
sheer joy of it, the sponsers looked at
sponser ship as a business expense.
  
->  hn> Just like most things in life, you have
->  hn> to take a bit of bitter with the sweet.
->  
-> Why? If I see something I don't like I kick up a fuss. One of the big 
problems
-> with this old world is that too many people go along with darned near 
anything
-> and allow a bad situation to become the status quo. I think I better get 
off of
-> my soapbox before we have to move this to the POL_INC echo.
-> 
-> Always question authority. Always!
-> 
It has nothing at all to do with
questioning autority. but yes if we 
want to keep discussing this, it should
go to email.
chat with you soon!
hap 
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