Tillbaka till svenska Fidonet
English   Information   Debug  
CABLE_MODEMS   0/25
CBM   0/46
CDRECORD   0/66
CDROM   0/20
CLASSIC_COMPUTER   0/378
COMICS   0/15
CONSPRCY   0/899
COOKING   28828
COOKING_OLD1   0/24719
COOKING_OLD2   0/40862
COOKING_OLD3   31863/37489
COOKING_OLD4   0/35496
COOKING_OLD5   9370
C_ECHO   0/189
C_PLUSPLUS   0/31
DIRTY_DOZEN   0/201
DOORGAMES   0/2031
DOS_INTERNET   0/196
duplikat   6000
ECHOLIST   0/18295
EC_SUPPORT   0/318
ELECTRONICS   0/359
ELEKTRONIK.GER   1534
ENET.LINGUISTIC   0/13
ENET.POLITICS   0/4
ENET.SOFT   0/11701
ENET.SYSOP   33811
ENET.TALKS   0/32
ENGLISH_TUTOR   0/2000
EVOLUTION   0/1335
FDECHO   0/217
FDN_ANNOUNCE   0/7068
FIDONEWS   23559
FIDONEWS_OLD1   0/49742
FIDONEWS_OLD2   0/35949
FIDONEWS_OLD3   0/30874
FIDONEWS_OLD4   0/37224
FIDO_SYSOP   12847
FIDO_UTIL   0/180
FILEFIND   0/209
FILEGATE   0/212
FILM   0/18
FNEWS_PUBLISH   4208
FN_SYSOP   41525
FN_SYSOP_OLD1   71952
FTP_FIDO   0/2
FTSC_PUBLIC   0/13587
FUNNY   0/4886
GENEALOGY.EUR   0/71
GET_INFO   105
GOLDED   0/408
HAM   0/16054
HOLYSMOKE   0/6791
HOT_SITES   0/1
HTMLEDIT   0/71
HUB203   466
HUB_100   264
HUB_400   39
HUMOR   0/29
IC   0/2851
INTERNET   0/424
INTERUSER   0/3
IP_CONNECT   719
JAMNNTPD   0/233
JAMTLAND   0/47
KATTY_KORNER   0/41
LAN   0/16
LINUX-USER   0/19
LINUXHELP   0/1155
LINUX   0/22013
LINUX_BBS   0/957
mail   18.68
mail_fore_ok   249
MENSA   0/341
MODERATOR   0/102
MONTE   0/992
MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA   0/1245
MUFFIN   0/783
MUSIC   0/321
N203_STAT   902
N203_SYSCHAT   313
NET203   321
NET204   69
NET_DEV   0/10
NORD.ADMIN   0/101
NORD.CHAT   0/2572
NORD.FIDONET   189
NORD.HARDWARE   0/28
NORD.KULTUR   0/114
NORD.PROG   0/32
NORD.SOFTWARE   0/88
NORD.TEKNIK   0/58
NORD   0/453
OCCULT_CHAT   0/93
OS2BBS   0/787
OS2DOSBBS   0/580
OS2HW   0/42
OS2INET   0/37
OS2LAN   0/134
OS2PROG   0/36
OS2REXX   0/113
OS2USER-L   207
OS2   0/4786
OSDEBATE   0/18996
PASCAL   0/490
PERL   0/457
PHP   0/45
POINTS   0/405
POLITICS   0/29554
POL_INC   0/14731
PSION   103
R20_ADMIN   1117
R20_AMATORRADIO   0/2
R20_BEST_OF_FIDONET   13
R20_CHAT   0/893
R20_DEPP   0/3
R20_DEV   399
R20_ECHO2   1379
R20_ECHOPRES   0/35
R20_ESTAT   0/719
R20_FIDONETPROG...
...RAM.MYPOINT
  0/2
R20_FIDONETPROGRAM   0/22
R20_FIDONET   0/248
R20_FILEFIND   0/24
R20_FILEFOUND   0/22
R20_HIFI   0/3
R20_INFO2   2852
R20_INTERNET   0/12940
R20_INTRESSE   0/60
R20_INTR_KOM   0/99
R20_KANDIDAT.CHAT   42
R20_KANDIDAT   28
R20_KOM_DEV   112
R20_KONTROLL   0/13078
R20_KORSET   0/18
R20_LOKALTRAFIK   0/24
R20_MODERATOR   0/1852
R20_NC   76
R20_NET200   245
R20_NETWORK.OTH...
...ERNETS
  0/13
R20_OPERATIVSYS...
...TEM.LINUX
  0/44
R20_PROGRAMVAROR   0/1
R20_REC2NEC   534
R20_SFOSM   0/340
R20_SF   0/108
R20_SPRAK.ENGLISH   0/1
R20_SQUISH   107
R20_TEST   2
R20_WORST_OF_FIDONET   12
RAR   0/9
RA_MULTI   106
RA_UTIL   0/162
REGCON.EUR   0/2056
REGCON   0/13
SCIENCE   0/1206
SF   0/239
SHAREWARE_SUPPORT   0/5146
SHAREWRE   0/14
SIMPSONS   0/169
STATS_OLD1   0/2539.065
STATS_OLD2   0/2530
STATS_OLD3   0/2395.095
STATS_OLD4   0/1692.25
SURVIVOR   0/495
SYSOPS_CORNER   0/3
SYSOP   0/84
TAGLINES   0/112
TEAMOS2   0/4530
TECH   0/2617
TEST.444   0/105
TRAPDOOR   0/19
TREK   0/755
TUB   0/290
UFO   0/40
UNIX   0/1316
USA_EURLINK   0/102
USR_MODEMS   0/1
VATICAN   0/2740
VIETNAM_VETS   0/14
VIRUS   0/378
VIRUS_INFO   0/201
VISUAL_BASIC   0/473
WHITEHOUSE   0/5187
WIN2000   0/101
WIN32   0/30
WIN95   0/4277
WIN95_OLD1   0/70272
WINDOWS   0/1517
WWB_SYSOP   0/419
WWB_TECH   0/810
ZCC-PUBLIC   0/1
ZEC   4

 
4DOS   0/134
ABORTION   0/7
ALASKA_CHAT   0/506
ALLFIX_FILE   0/1313
ALLFIX_FILE_OLD1   0/7997
ALT_DOS   0/152
AMATEUR_RADIO   0/1039
AMIGASALE   0/14
AMIGA   0/331
AMIGA_INT   0/1
AMIGA_PROG   0/20
AMIGA_SYSOP   0/26
ANIME   0/15
ARGUS   0/924
ASCII_ART   0/340
ASIAN_LINK   0/651
ASTRONOMY   0/417
AUDIO   0/92
AUTOMOBILE_RACING   0/105
BABYLON5   0/17862
BAG   135
BATPOWER   0/361
BBBS.ENGLISH   0/382
BBSLAW   0/109
BBS_ADS   0/5290
BBS_INTERNET   0/507
BIBLE   0/3563
BINKD   0/1119
BINKLEY   0/215
BLUEWAVE   0/2173
Möte COOKING_OLD3, 37489 texter
 lista första sista föregående nästa
Text 33318, 76 rader
Skriven 2013-02-03 13:23:00 av MICHAEL LOO (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av DAVE DRUM
Ärende: ungenerosity 104
========================
 DD> I didn't even know what piccata was until I described a dish I had
 DD> eaten, enjoyed highly and reverse engineered. I was informed on this
 DD> very echo that it was "piccata"

Not by me, though, I'm sure, and not by anyone with any
sense of history, unless they mentioned the lack of capers.
By the way, we discussed this very issue a decade ago.
Not necessarily with you, I think Weller might have been
the other culprit. At the time I believe I advocated a
small dose of anchovy paste in addition to the capers,
of which I like a very scanty amount.

 . My description (and the dish)
 DD> contained no capers. Which is good, as I do not care for those little
 DD> salt bombs in most things - as I do not care for an overload of salt
 DD> cured anchovies. 

I find this a slightly peculiar thing to be championing,
as I prefer neither lemon nor capers with my white meat,
rather a sweetish sauce with shallots or onions, such as
with Marsala or Madeira. But there is substantial value
to explicitness of language, and if I see a fancy code
word (piccata, Marsala, fiorentina) describing a dish,
I should be able to expect a certain set of ingredients.

 DD> One of my go-to places locally (Star 66 Cafe) does au jus on damned
 DD> near everything that is not breaded. So, I remember to specify "no au
 DD> jus" when I order pork chops, liver and onions, chopped sirloin, etc.

My point being that "au jus" is a barbarism often found
on restaurant menus, not unlike piccata without capers,
though less misleading. Au jus is an adjective of which
jus is the noun form. Au jus sauce just boggles the mind
as well as destroying the heart.

 ML> some low-salt monstrosity cobbled together by a few thousand
 ML> morons on the Internet.
 DD> Who outnumber you by a few thousand to you.

Perhaps true, but I console myself with the fact that they're
the morons, not I. Somebody has to take a stand against
stupidity, and I'm rather sad that you're not helping do so.

---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v7.04

      Title: MEAN AND LEAN BEEF STROGANOFF
 Categories: Beef, more mean than anything else
   Servings:  4

    3/4 lb Beef round steak, cut 1/2"          1    8 ounce carton plain low
           Thick and trimmed of fat                 Fat yogurt
      1 tb Cooking oil                         1 tb All purpose flour
      2 c  Sliced fresh mushrooms              1 ts Sugar
    1/2 c  Dry sherry                        1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 c  Water                                    Dash pepper
    1/2 ts Instant beef bouillon               2 c  Hot cooked rice
           Granules                                 Snipped parsley (opt)

   Partially freeze the steak.Thinly slice across the grain into bite-size
  strips.In skillet,brown meat,half at a time, in hot oil for 2 to 4
  minutes.Remove meat from skillet.Add sliced mushrooms to the skillet;cook
  for 2 to 3 minutes or until tender.Remove mushrooms.Add sherry,water and
  bouillon granules to the skillet;bring to boiling.Cook,uncovered,over high
  heat 3 minutes or until liquid is reduced to 1/3 cup. Combine
  yogurt,flour,sugar,salt and pepper;mix well.Stir the low fat yogurt mixture
  into the liquid in the skillet;stir in meat and mushrooms.Cook and stir
  over low heat until the mixture is thickened and heated through;DO NOT
  BOIL.Serve over hot cooked rice.Sprinkle the beef stroganoff mixture with
  snipped parsley,if desired. Source unknown. Dish would be much better
  with real sour cream and no sugar.

-----

___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
 * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140)