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Skriven 2014-08-23 14:27:00 av NANCY BACKUS (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MICHAEL LOO
Ärende: Re: musicke 820
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-=> Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-21-14  18:56 <=-

 ML>> serious music is in danger of being quite simply crowded out.
 NB>> Possibly... especially when station owners don't agree about the
 NB>> quality and/or the necessity of keeping it around.  Even a lot of the
 NB>> public stations don't see much of the value, although there is
 NB>> sometimes some lipservice paid... 
 ML> I'm getting irritated. Both by the modern moderns, whose
 ML> main motivation seems to be to prove they're smarter than
 ML> everyone else, and by the audience whose ovine behavior
 ML> proves them right. Meanwhile, there's nobody standing up
 ML> for 500 years of civilized music.

Perhaps not nobody, just not as many as one would like...  There are at
least pockets of resistance... ;)   Around here there's generally a good
selection of music from all the eras of civilized music... if not always
on any one concert (kinda hard to do anyway...[g]), usually throughout
the season...  Plus there are groups that are devoted to certain older
eras...   And the syndicated radio program Performance Today does its
part to stand up for civilized music, and those who still perform it. :) 

 ML> And with the public stations held to a nonpublic financial
 ML> standard, there's not much to be done about that.

Some do try to keep to a non-profit nonpublic standard... I suppose they
are able to because they do indeed get a good amount of listener support
on-going...  :)  Around here, both Rochester (WXXI) and Syracuse (WCNY)
are predominantly classical music (in the wide sense of the term) almost
24/7...  They tout it, but my mom disputes it, citing all the programs
that she feels are whittling away at civilized music... however, those
actually only add up to about 12 hours for the entire week... not
counting the opera, which she also doesn't much care for...  ;)

 NB>> How nasty.  I've never been terribly impressed with the satellite
 NB>> music channels
 ML> At least Sirius had several "sirius" music channels,
 ML> pretty middle-of-the-road as far as I could see,
 ML> nothing challenging.

The only time I was exposed to them I was singularly unimpressed... not
sure if it was Sirius or pre-dated that... but some sort of satellite
feed...  Middle of the road, and mostly unannounced in any way (vocal or
print onscreen), to boot...

 NB>> (or was this the airline channel?  where do they get
 NB>> their feed?) anyway...
 ML> United has a multiplicity of aircraft, each type with
 ML> its own style and its own purveyor. The 753s and the
 ML> newer 319s and 320s tend to have nothing. The 737 series
 ML> that were inherited from Continental tend to have DirecTV,
 ML> but either I haven't flown on any of these lately or they
 ML> are taking out the entertainment altogether. The old
 ML> United fleet - 319s, 320s, 752s, and 744s - had a variety
 ML> of channels, including one classical and the famed Channel
 ML> 9, which was air traffic control, my favorite. The content
 ML> was a dedicated mix of about an hour and half, maybe
 ML> longer for the transpacifics, chosen by an independent
 ML> company first and then I think by Sirius. It was one of
 ML> these that kept malfunctioning and giving me 2 to 2.5
 ML> selections, then going off for a while, then starting over.

Ah.  Any time I've ever tried to listen to the classical channel ISTR
that it wasn't working properly...  If I'd done more flying, I probably
would have gotten interested in Channel 9...

 ML> The other widebodies - 763s and 764s (i.e. 767-300s and
 ML> 767-400s) and 772s - have been refitted to offer movies,
 ML> features, and a wide variety of musics. Only the movies
 ML> work. We were told that the supplier got into copyright
 ML> trouble, and now there hundreds of empty albums covered
 ML> by a robot voice saying "this selection is not available."
 ML> The features are interesting - someone bought the budget
 ML> version, so you click on, say, Beat Bobby Flay or Hotel
 ML> Impossible or even Guy frickin' Fieri and try to scroll
 ML> down the episodes ... and you discover that only one
 ML> show of each title is available.

How frustrating...  

 ML> So I put on the map (used to be zoomable, now replaced
 ML> by a cheap version), stuff in earplugs, stretch out, and
 ML> attempt to sleep.

Sensible solution... :)

 NB>> Even at best, it's more elevator music style
 NB>> than really music appreciation.
 ML> Exactly so. I am told that now there is some application
 ML> (not App) by which you can program your own virtual
 ML> radio station and broadcast it across the Internet,
 ML> including to yourself, so all these other systems are
 ML> outmoded and doomed to extinction anyhow.

And (at least some of) the relatively few actually "good" music stations
have streaming over the internet, so one can listen wherever one is,
provided one has the proper stuff on one's computer...  :)

 ML>> As I've seen perfectly fine onions with more than seven layers,
 ML>> I'd say that I was, but if you're talking about an agricultural
 ML>> extension I figure they have better things to do than count
 ML>> onion strata.
 NB>> One wonders if the claim was being made more philosophically, as
 NB>> in seven being the number of perfection...  (G)  
 ML> That would be sort of silly and arbitrary. Of course,
 ML> the claim altogether is silly and arbitrary.

Which, indeed, was my point... ;)
 
 NB>> We have a sophomoric would-be philospher at church than makes
 NB>> similar claims as to the perfection of a particular pew...  ;)  
 NB>> I gave up taking him seriously a long time ago... 
 ML> Theological or aesthetic perfection? 

Quasi-theological...  There are, however certain places where one can
hear better than others... but that wasn't any of his concern...

 ML> I used to have favorite seats at the concert halls (where
 ML> I enjoyed them as audience) - X22 and 23 at Symphony Hall
 ML> and N35 and 37, as I recall, at Jordan. I lost those seats
 ML> when one year I couldn't afford to pay subscriptions
 ML> any more.

Thus releasing them for other connoisseurs...  :)  I've always
favored the Loge seats, although the only times I could actually sit
there were for free concerts, never could afford them...  My mom wants
seats where she can see the guest pianist's hands... other than that
she isn't too picky... :)

ttyl        neb

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