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Skriven 2004-10-20 16:29:00 av Michael Ragland (1:278/230)
Ärende: Re: Interview with Mayr
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Michael Ragland <ragland66@webtv.net> wrote or quoted: 

TT: 
Reproduction is not a "natural right" - as somatic cells and
ants should clearly demonstrate. 
Nature simply does not necessarily make all somatically distinct
individuals sexually potent. 

MR: 
It may not be a "natural right" but sexual reproduction is the form of
reproduction for humans. 

TT: 
It's the most common one - but is no longer the only one ;-) 

MR: 
In vitro fertilization is still a form of human sexual reproduction. 

TT:
...but cloning is not. 

MR:
True but there are no viable human clones to date that I know of. Just
some experiments. You're speaking in the future tense.

MR: 
We already are essentially a colonial organism. I don't see modeling
human society on insects and kin selection as viable. I do possibly see
the need in the future for sterile human worker clones but this isn't
based on kin selection. In fact, I see a time in our evolutionary future
where no descendants of humans sexually reproduce. [...] 

TT: 
I don't. The future will be powerfully and permanently sexual. 

MR: 
Are you sure you aren't applying anthropomorphic characteristics to your
projection of our evolutionary future? 

TT:
I'm sure. 

MR:
Well, it depends on one's evolutionary time frame of "future". It seems
arrogant to state the future will be "permanently" powerful and sexual.
A hundred years from now? Sure. A million years from now I don't think
anybody can say the future will be permanently and powerfully sexual.

MR: 
As I mentioned I think eventually our descendants won't sexually
reproduce...interbreed with anything. Genetic recombination and the
creation of "human life" will will take place in the laboratory and
artificial wombs. 

TT: 
You sound like you have an odd definition of sex. 

MR: 
That's a very interesting point you make. My guess is if our descendants
don't sexually reproduce with anything and the creation of "human life"
will take place in the laboratory and artificial wombs then ultimately
we will become sexless. [...] 

TT:
IMO, quite a bit of future sex will look something like the process
described in this article: 
``How Companies Have Sex´´ 
  - http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/05/sex.html 

TT: 
Indeed - most future soma will typically be created in something more
closely resembling a factory than anything else... but that doesn't mean
it will not be sexual. 

MR: 
Well I can tell you place alot of importance on sex. 

TT:
Of course: sex is "nature's masterpiece". 

TT: 
Make no mistake, large genitals are in some demand - and consequently
the future will see bigger genitals than have ever been seen in the
past. 

MR: 
Yes, there is a demand for it but I'm not sure genetic engineering will
be helpful. 

TT:
Sure it will ;-) 

MR: 
See, if the man's penis is too big it hurts the woman's vagina and if it
is real big make her have a bowel movement. [...] 

TT: 
It won't /just/ be men with bigger genitals ;-) 
[...] 

MR: 
Well I'm not aware of many woman who want bigger pussies unless they
have an abnormally small one. The market is for men who want bigger
dicks because this is suppose to attract females. 

Females have this, though: 
``Lolo Ferrari Biography´´ 
  - http://www.talkingblue.com/pornstar/Lolo_Ferrari_gs.htm 
;-)
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