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Skriven 2005-12-11 02:46:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av WARD DOSSCHE
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-=> Quoting Ward Dossche to Frank Scheidt <=-

 > The only thing that bothers me is that August 5-7 isn't
 > considered a national holiday in celebration of the act which
 > ended the hostilities in the Pacific.
 WD> 
 WD> There is such a holiday in Japan ... August 6th ...

August 6th in Japan was August 5th here ... unfortunately the 
International Date Line confuses the situation.  For that reason 
I suggest we have a *two-day* celebration each year, August 5th 
and 6th.
 
 > If you had read -- at the
 > time -- about the suicidal resistance put up by the Japanese
 > soldiers when we invaded Okinawa you'd think differently.
 WD> 
 WD> The part of Belgium where my dad lived through the war was liberated
 WD> in September 1944 ... he bought bunches of American magazines and
 WD> newspapers and saved them after the war.
 WD> 
 WD> Reading them now, next to the pile of the Nazi publication "Signal",
 WD> one can only say that they both wrote the same thing but in another
 WD> language: propaganda! And that's not an accusation, I guess in times of
 WD> war it is only normal that this happens.
 
Yes, of course, and we fully realized that at the time.  However 
by careful reading, and knowing the history of what had been 
printed before one can locate the truth.

 > But 9/11 was *clearly* an act of terrorism.
 WD> 
 WD> By your and my standard, but not by the standard of those that did it,
 WD> they considered themselves the advance-guard of a liberation army and
 WD> supposedly by their standards are now enjoying their virgins.

It would be interesting to know *where*, if anywhere, they are.
 
 > We were at peace
 > with the world, especially with Saudi Arabia who contributed
 > fifteen of the terrorists.
 WD> 
 WD> That is an unfair statement. Just because they were holding Saudi
 WD> passports does not make the government of Saudi-Arabia an accomplice.

It is well known that the Saudis give strong support to the 
Wahhabi schools globally.  And they support killing Americans 
and Jews.
 
 WD> Quite recently a young Belgian woman whom had converted to Islam under
 WD> the influence of her fundamentalist husband blew herself to smithereens
 WD> in Baghdad (killing no-one but herself btw). That does not make the
 WD> government of this country an accomplice.

Of course not ... but that's because the Belgian government 
apparently does *not* support the schools referred to above.
 
 WD> What else would we have to say about the case of John Walker, the
 WD> American Taliban ... that the US sent its sons to fight alongside the
 WD> Taliban? That would be the same style statement and just as wrong.

The same as with the foolish Belgian women -- except he didn't 
die.

... "I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay ... " ÄÄ Monty Python

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