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Text 21125, 81 rader
Skriven 2006-01-06 12:17:00 av Peter Knapper (3:772/1.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Frank Scheidt (1:123/140)
Ärende: Lack of Gratitude
=========================
Hi Frank,

 PK> however a question such as "How do you justify the actions that were
 PK> taken?" would be responded to with something like "Our actions were
 PK> just..." and little more. Thats not exactly an 
 PK> answer that leads to any credibility. 

 FS> How about:  We defended ourselves against a dangerous enemy.  
 FS> Does that satisfy you?

Yes thanks, thats exactly the sort of statement that would be much better, as
it provides some rationale about the reply to the question. In the above case,
your justification was based on there being a dangerous enemy so you defended
yourself. 


 PK> You really missed that one didn't you......;-) My last line was a
 PK> suggestion that your brainwashing took place before I was born...
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 FS> Huh?  What "brainwashing"?   Were you subject to brainwashing?  

Thats a very strange reply when we are clearly discussing YOU, not ME...


 FS> I know *I* wasn't since my replies have all been fact-based.

So just how does one KNOW if one has been brainwashed or not?


 PK> Your "glib" replies make one wonder why you are trying to avoid a
 PK> direct response. It also comes back to what I said before, that your
 PK> apparent one-eyed approach leaves questions in the minds of others, as
 PK> if you are trying to hide something. This approach 
 PK> simply makes people want to ask more...  

 FS> I *never* give "glib" replies.  

Consider "glib" to be the same as the first reply above, a "glib" reply is an
unqualified reply that may not be a direct reply to a question.


 FS> I don't think you understand the enormity of the value of having 
 FS> Iraq be a democracy instead of a dictatorship.  

Frank, you should NEVER admit to these things, probably without realising it
you have just stated that the SOLE reason for invading Iraq was to provide a
commercial advantge to the USA. One of the founding principles of Democracy is
the belief that there should be open business opportunities to the commercial
environment, and according to what you have just said above, that is the sole
reason for the USA to "rescue" Iraq.

 FS> The entire Mid-East will be shaken up.

I doubt that. Most of the remaining Arab countries have fairly strong controls
in place that allow then to control any "Capital based" market that tries to
take hold. Soe of them may be a Democracy, but it is realy only a token one at
this stage.


 FS> Are you claiming Bush didn't have good reason to believe Saddam 
 FS> Hussein was a danger to us?

Unfortunately, he did not. GWB used his "response" to a false threat to "hide"
(ineffectively as it turns out) his real intentions. What is hurting him so
much is that like a stack of cards, it only took one to be removed before the
house came tumbling down.


 FS> George W. Bush is a compassionate man, which is probably why the 
 FS> culprits haven't been reprimanded publicly.

GWB is not out in the field with his finger on the trigger, so compassion
doesn't enter into it. He already knows he is skating on very thin ice, so now
has to keep HIS profile low on this one. It will be interesting to see how he
backs the USA out of this one.

Cheers.........pk.


--- Maximus/2 3.01
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