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Skriven 2006-01-09 14:23:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Frank Vest (1:124/6308.1)
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Hello Frank,

 Mv>> Well, 9/11 certainly affected them very directly wouldn't you
 Mv>> say? Yet most of them won't even acknowledge there was a link
 Mv>> to the US foreign policy.

 > [Quote from you in a previous discussion]
Mv>> True, but that still does not give you te right to wave your fist
Mv>> around disregarding the noses of others
 > [/quote]

 > So what gives them the right to wave their fist in front of
 > the nose of the USA?  Those are your words, Michiel.

Lifted out of context and twisted even /after/ I explained to you what I meant
by "others". Here is a quote from a previous message from me to you:

 > By "others" I did not mean the terrorists. I meant "others", ie:
 > people or countries that are not involved.

So what gives them the right Easy, the same right that you claim for yourself:
hit back when being hit.

 > Yes, the USA might have waved a fist (attacked, disrespected
 > or whatever) at another country, but by your own words, that does
 > not give that country the right to wave their fist back.

No, those were the words you twisted mine into.

When hit, you may hit back at the one who hit you. (Although that may not
always be the wisest of moves). But you may not hit someone who has not hit you
first.

 > Or were you only saying that the USA should not have the right?
 > Seems that fair is fair to all and should apply universally. At
 > least that seems to be the consensus in here with
 > regards to any nation, country, or person except for the USA
 > or a citizen thereof. :(

 > Let's be fair here and stop this stuff.

No.

You still ignore something else I have said: I wonder why you drag in the
terrorists at all. When I introduced the "waving fist" methaphore I was not
thinking at all about terrorists, I was thinking about the USA attempting to
impose its laws and morals on others. And I told you so. And it didn't start
with 9/11, it started long before that. I remind you of the Menno Blom case as
an example.

 > There will be people and/or governments in every conflict in
 > every country, nation, race and/or whatever that will not
 > acknowledge that there was a wrong done by them or their side
 > first. It is *never* the other sides fault, but it is *always*
 > the other sides fault.

And that is precisely why it will never end until one of the parties has ceased
to exist. And as I don't see how you can eradicate terrorism.....

Cheers, Michiel

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