Text 27858, 98 rader
Skriven 2006-04-20 09:06:28 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
  Kommentar till text 27710 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
Ärende: Canadian "Skills"
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19 Apr 06 10:37, FRANK SCHEIDT wrote to ROY WITT:

 FS> -=> Quoting Roy Witt to Björn Forsström <=-

 BF>>>> If he hasn't anything else to do then keep nagging about things
 BF>>>> that happend 60 years ago he have too much spare time that could
 BF>>>> be used to do something better with.

 RW>>> Actually, he's not nagging, he's educating the unwashed.

 BF>> So just because he was living during the WWII makes him an expert

 RW>> I wouldn't say he's an expert, but he is better schooled in the
 RW>> history of WW2 than anybody here. I wouldn't bother to support him
 RW>> if it weren't true.

 FS> I have never *claimed* to be an "expert" WRT WWII.

I know. But Felten seems to have that perception.

 FS> However since I *was* there I not only recall a great deal of what
 FS> went on but as WWII approached I, as a teenaged, potential
 FS> "cannon-fodder" was extremely alert as to what went on in both
 FS> national and international politics.  I was born shortly after WWI
 FS> and *that* war was a frequent source of discussion among adults.

As was WW2 in my family. With three uncles returning from both theatres,
the war stories were very interesting for a young boy to listen to. One of
them brought an English war-bride home and even she had war stories of her
own. She lived in London and told a the bombings and rocket attacks,
nearly getting killed herself.

 FS> The modern Europeans have such a shameful past it's
 FS> understandable that their history books would have distorted what
 FS> went on -- especially to kids in school.

I just read in the local newspaper that the Germans have agreed to release
the contents of the records the Nazi kept on who they processed through
their concentration camps. These records have been kept intact by
representatives of 11 countrys. I forget the name of the town where
they're kept, someplace in Germany. In about six months, we'll be reading
all about that. Wonder if the uros will ignore it or get a lesson in thier
past.

 BF>>  and the right to "educate" or should I say, force,

 RW>> No one is forcing you to read what he says. There is the next key.
 RW>> However, if you want to know about WW2, I'd shy away from the
 RW>> schools there in urope, as they seem to have skipped over that part
 RW>> of history.

 FS> They *do* have quite a distorted view ... I've read that there's
 FS> a tremendous difference of opinion of the US, for example,
 FS> between the current generation and the generation that was around
 FS> during the Berlin Air Lift -- a generous American act which saved
 FS> the people of Berlin.  (I suppose the current Europeans here
 FS> haven't even *heard* of that.)  *That* older generation is
 FS> *still* grateful ...

I remember it. For those who don't or haven't heard of it, the History
Channel did a nice documentary on it this past week.

 BF>> his opinion on to others?

 RW>> Facts are facts, whether or not they're the opinion of someone who's
 RW>> making a valid point is of no concern for the learned or the
 RW>> student.

 FS> They don't *like* facts and wish they'd simply go away!

Of course not, facts don't help their cause any...

 BF>>>> In case you haven't noticed, you two are the only one here that
 BF>>>> think it's interesting, the rest of us have moved on.

 RW>>> The only other subject here is whether or not we should include a
 RW>>> few Canucks and one Aussie in that education effort. You might want
 RW>>> to stand by for an update, in case you need more eduction on the
 RW>>> subject.

 BF>> As Roger Nelson said, it was a mistake (my second) posting here
 BF>> where there only are Einstein:s. I leave the mudslinging to you and
 BF>> retire to my park-bench, the coffe is getting cold.

 RW>> Yes, which reminds me of the cliche'; if you can't play with the big
 RW>> dogs, stay out of the game.

 FS> BF has been irritated with me ever since I made the mistake of
 FS> trying to *help* him with an awkward bit of English.  He
 FS> considered that an "insult" ... [sigh] ...

Of course he did. Don't you know that they're taught better English in
their schools than we learn in ours?


Roy
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