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Text 3125, 108 rader
Skriven 2004-12-09 18:43:43 av Roy Witt (1:10/22)
   Kommentar till text 3110 av Björn Felten (2:203/2)
Ärende: Science 1/2
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Hello Björn.

09 Dec 04 22:50, you wrote to me:


 BF>>>    But it still shows only one Fidonews Editor, so why isn't it
 BF>>> reliable?

 RW>> Because the nodelist doesn't convey moderator status...it merely
 RW>> states FIDONEWS EDITOR.

 BF>    OK Roy. I'll try to write this really slow, so that even you can
 BF> understand it.

You better go faster than your normal pace, I get bored with real slow
rhetoric like yours.

 BF>    For almost three years now, the rules of this echo have been
 BF> posted, like clock work, at 15 minutes past midnight UTC, the first
 BF> day of every month. Those rules clearly say that:

But, these rules you post and claim to be that of the moderator are posted
by you, who isn't listed anywhere as the moderator. Accept in your own
mind.

 BF> Moderator:

 BF>   The Fidonews editor, as listed in the nodelist and in the banner of
 BF>   the most recent issue of the Fidonews weekly publication, is the
 BF>   permanent moderator of this echo.

Who says so? You? ROTFLMFAO!

 BF>    So, how do you go from this? Well, as this is now an echo of Z2
 BF> origin

That's an untruth, since the echo originates in Z1 and is elisted as such.

 BF> , we play by Z2 rules, right?

You've got a mouse in your pocket?

 BF>  And according to Z2 rules you cannot change the rules at random

Z2 rules don't apply here. See above where it says the echo orginates in
Z1. It always has, btw. The only thing here that originates in Z2 are your
posts and those of MvdV and RBashe...the rest, those who're sysops anyway,
originate in Z3. As you know, users have no say so in these matters that
really count.

 BF> (like e.g. someone did in FN_SYSOP a couple of years ago, and
 BF> therefore was promptly kicked out of office),

He was kicked out for changing the rules? That's news to me, since those
rules were the same rules handed down by the former moderator there. Or
were you referring to the post of rules that were meant to be a joke, for
those who were interested in having a little fun? I know, that joke went
way over your head and you're still tring to figure it out.

 BF> you have to make the changes in cooperation with the echo
 BF> participants.

This echo doesn't belong to anyone but the elisted moderator. The rules
are what he says they are, not yours.

 BF>    So, before you can change the rules quoted above, you must have
 BF> the full cooperation from the echo participants (according to the Z2
 BF> rules).

ROTFLMFAO!!!

 BF>    Can you see your predicament now,

I see the corner you've backed yourself into.

 BF>  if you want to try to hijack this echo? Oh, sure, you probably could
 BF> get some of the Z1 sheep to go along with you.

I wouldn't hijack it, since it belongs to a friend of mine. Besides, you
can't hijack that which is elisted.

 BF>  All you have to do is tell them that "those are the Z1 rules" and
 BF> they'll bend over and take it all the way up...

I'd just tell them that you've gone off the deep end and have given up
your claim as moderator, since you have no proof that you are the
moderator here.

 BF>    But today that's not enough, since there are only some 100 active
 BF> Z1 nodes left, and noone outside of Z1 will accept such a lame
 BF> excuse. So I ask once again:

 BF>>>  And how many people do you think would fall for that attempt?

Apples v Oranges...

 BF>    Please, feel free to make a list of all the participants of this
 BF> echo, and then check everyone on that list, that you think would fall
 BF> for a stunt like that, that mark suggested.

I don't have to ask them, they'll all volunteer their opinions without
anyone asking. Although, their opinions aren't worth the phospor they'd be
written on, since reality is that you're not the moderator and Jack Yates
is.


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