Text 35551, 90 rader
Skriven 2006-08-01 13:40:35 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
  Kommentar till text 35543 av Björn Forsström (1:275/311)
Ärende: Massive European Guilt!
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Hello Björn.

01 Aug 06 11:50, SHANNON TALLEY wrote to you:

 ST> Bj"rn,

 ST> Although you pissed me off with that statement regarding Hating
 ST> Americans, I'll -- for the sake of argument -- give you that perhaps
 ST> it wasn't exactly what you meant.  I respect Herman Neut -- and he has
 ST> never lied to me before, and I don't expect he ever would.  On the
 ST> other hand, you have lied to me before, so I had no reason to expect
 ST> you to tell me the truth.  Herman vouched for your explanation, so
 ST> I'll accept it.

 ST> As for "leaving" -- good god man -- grow some thicker skin!  AND --
 ST> quit making this an "American" issue!!  "I" am not making this a
 ST> Swedish issue, and therefore, you stereotyping Americans really 'is' a
 ST> sign of prejudice --  perhaps not so overtly as you realize or want to
 ST> admit to yourself, but it is just the same.


     I would have to agree with Shannon here on several points. I would
prefer that you stay if possible. I am not suggesting that you leave but
as I and others have said. I will not overlook your discrimination of people
or groups based on what country that they come from. If you choose to to
continue with that attitude then I fear that the situation you currently find
yourself in will not change.

 ST> If you must leave, do so.... But remember, you made the decision to
 ST> leave --  nobody actually "kicked you out".  However, "I" recommend
 ST> you take a short break, and then come back.  Just take a week or maybe
 ST> 3 days.  Start fresh by not reading anything from within that 3 days
 ST> (or week) and you may find things have calmed down (it's a trick
 ST> really -- because you are the only one who is really spun up).  I
 ST> don't necessarily want you to leave, but I sincerely hope you won't
 ST> continue to make things an "American" issue as you have been doing.
 ST> Realize that "people are people" -- wherever you are --  regardless of
 ST> the city -- the country -- the continent -- people are people. And,
 ST> people in real life are rarely the personalities they are in the
 ST> echos.


     Yes, people are people. If you dislike a person or several people.
Fine. Thats your choice. But don't hate whole countries of people based
on your dislike of a handful. Treat people as a person and like or dislike
them individually as you see fit.

 ST> It's like that fanatical driver who honks their horn and yells
 ST> obstinacies out the window, and after they get to their destination,
 ST> you see a 4ft tall old lady walk out and deliver food to the homeless.

 ST> Whatever your decision, don't base it on anything that "I" or anyone
 ST> else tells you.

 >> BF>> I agree that this was written in anger but I still stand for
 >> BF>> it.
 >> Assholes
 >> BF>> like he drags the American people in the dirt.
 BF>> it their own way. Pity though that those two are the living proof
 BF>> of how
 ST> the
 BF>> world thinks about Americans.

 ST> See the above statement?  That's what I'm talking about.  You aren't
 ST> the "World" nor can you possibly represent the "World".  That's "YOUR"
 ST> Opinion, and it's obviously offensive.

     The world isn't going to change for you any more than it will for me
or anyone else. Neither you nor I can represent what (We think) the worlds
opinion might be. While there are a few that may seem on the attack most
people here (Including me) are reacting to you and your attitude and are not
intentially attacking you. I would much rather hold a civil discussion about
some topic of interest or even argue some point of disagreement.

    The decision to leave is yours and you (IMHO) should base that decision
not on what people tell you but on what you think is right for you. I am not
out to get you but at the same time I will not stand by and watch you spread
hate and discontent. The choice is yours.


 ST> Warmest regards,
 ST> Shannon

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Jeff

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