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Text 40786, 123 rader
Skriven 2006-10-07 10:41:35 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
     Kommentar till en text av BOB KLAHN (1:123/140)
Ärende: Rock
============
06 Oct 06 23:14, BOB KLAHN wrote to ROY WITT:

 DC>>>>>>> And, it is unlikely that Peter ever got to Rome.
 RW>>>>>> It doesn't matter as it seems that Paul did more to build
 RW>>>>>> the xtian church than Peter ever did. And Paul was a
 RW>>>>>> persecutor of xians before he saw the light, really!
 BK>>>>>  Yeah, we know.
 RW>>>> You got a mouse in your pocket?
 BK>>>  You think I'm the only Catholic in the world, or just in the
 BK>>>  country, or just in Fido?
 RW>> I think you're the only one who typed; "Yeah, we know."
 RW>> What's your mouse' name?
 BK>  Mouse name? Like in Mousketeer? Never had one.

Then you speak for all Catholics. Doubtful.

 BK>  A great many Catholics know what you posted, whether they
 BK>  replied to you or not.

My wife is catholic, she didn't know until I showed her, nor did her
mother who's Catholic bible we have in the library. (It's an heirloom, not
used as a reference here)

 BK> BTW, I was speaking of the "persecuror of Christians",

Ummmm, precursor or persecutor? If persecutor, Paul was that and more
before he was turned from the dark side.

 BK> not the "Paul did more to build the Christian church" part. That last
 BK> could be in dispute.

I doubt that. Read the New Testement and get back to me on who traveled
throughout the Mediteranian region spreading the word more than Paul.

 BK>>>>>>>> Oh, and the Catholic Church does not accept that Jesus had a
 BK>>>>>>>> brother.
 DC>>>>>>> There's a lot of things that they won't accept.  Mary Magdalene
 DC>>>>>>> is one of them.
 RW>>>>>> I wouldn't bother myself with anything the Catholic Church
 RW>>>>>> has to say or do, they're the persecutors of the innocent,
 RW>>>>>> as in Spanish Inquisition under the Pope of the Catholic
 RW>>>>>> Church.
 BK>>>>>  Which is true of every single religion or philsophy that ever
 BK>>>>>  had control of a government.
 RW>>>> LOL! Sure they were ... however, none came even close to
 RW>>>> the atrocities of the Catholic Church. If it hadn't been
 RW>>>> for the protestents and the king of England, it'd still be
 RW>>>> going on.
 BK>>>  So the protestants and the King of England took over and became
 BK>>>  the persecutors. We understand now.
 RW>> Apparently you're brain is denser than I thought.
 BK>  Apparently yours is less so than I thought.

Which means that mine is more open to knowledge than yours.

 BK>>>  Not to mention what every other religion that ever gained power
 BK>>>  did, and what every religion that ever became the lead religion
 BK>>>  tolerated.
 RW>> They did it in the name of their religion, but their
 RW>> religion didn't preach; kill our fellow men, women and
 RW>> children because they have sinned in the eyes of their god.

 BK>  Oh? So, just what did the persecution of Catholics in England
 BK>  consist of?

It didn't, it was the other way around.

 BK> And in Ireland?

They're Irish. No need to go any further.

 BK> And the invasion of Rome by Protestant armies?

To rid the world of idiots.

 RW>> If they followed their religion, they would have forgiven
 RW>> them of their trespasses and let god do the sorting out.

 BK>  Funny, not only do I agree with that, but I also think the
 BK>  current crop of conservative Christians would be much more
 BK>  reluctant to claim God's favor in killing people.

But they wouldn't have a probelem in calling on God to kill them for them.

 RW>> But not every religion persecuted their fellow man, just
 BK>  Just every one that ever took power.

The US was founded by xtians, yet no other religion or non-religious
people have been persecuted here. (by the government)

 RW>> some of them and the most prominant religion to do that was
 RW>> the Catholic church. Not only for a few decades, but for
 RW>> centuries.

 BK>  The Catholic Church is the most prominent religion in the
 BK>  Western world. You will find that Islam is no less guilty in
 BK>  their areas.

But Islam is bigger.

 BK> And Jewish teachings say God ordered them to invade and kill every
 BK> man woman and child in one citystate.

Which is why they're not welcome in the middle east, haven't been ever
since they invaded Canaan and murdered men, women and children in the area
known today as Isreal. If God ordered that, then God isn't what he's
cracked up to be by Catholics or any other religion. In that case, God is
not love.

 BK>  Every religion that takes power abuses it to the extent of it's
 BK>  power.

You mean the people who gain power use religion as an excuse to murder
others. Every religion I've ever studied makes a point of teaching just
the opposite.

               R\%/itt


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