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Text 45264, 109 rader
Skriven 2006-12-29 18:23:00 av MARTIN ATKINS (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av ROSS CASSELL
Ärende: America
===============
-=> ROSS CASSELL wrote to MARTIN ATKINS <=-

 RC> Hello MARTIN!

 RC> 29 Dec 06 12:00, you wrote to me:

 MA> Wayne noticed that you had shut docsplace access to this echo and
 MA> wrongly reported that all his mail to the fido was being tampered
 MA> with. He was unaware of the netmail to Ed Koon at the time.

 RC> Wayne says he is paranoid and delusional, scroll back several messages
 RC> Marty.

I know Wayne. He gets a bit cryptic at times but i can read between the
lines. 

 RC> You let your knee jerk reaction control you and its not the first time,
 RC> aamof, you to were carrying on in a insane fashion in docs local echo
 RC> by trying to say I was his co-sysop.

You acted as such by blocking Docsplace BBS from this echo.

 RC> If Wayne told you that photo-synthesis only takes place in the dark,
 RC> you'd believe it.

Nooo! Wayne and i still disagree about the degree of carbon sequestration 
by the oceans.

 RC>> Just like Ed Hulett is not part of any entourage you wish to
 RC>> associate with me, I doubt Marty is part of yours.

 MA> Even Ed Koon unwittingly became tarnished by what was an unfortunate
 MA> reference to the "Wayne Sauer commission" on his new web site.

 RC> You need to develop a better sense of humor, all that commision stuff,
 RC> which I kept confined to matzdobre was merely a parody of sorts on both
 RC> WC/RS, whom both portray themselves experts on everything.

It was a hideous piece of timing by Ed. I'm sure he is still having
a good belly laugh about the whole thing. I know i am.

 RC> and while you may feel both of them catch a unusual amount of flack,
 RC> you should know that they both give as good as they get.

You allowed your silly war with them to cloud your judgment as a
Zone 1 coordinator.

 MA> We were all in our way guilty of errors of judgment. Why don't
 MA> accept that you had some responsibility and move on.

 RC> I never accused you of anything falsely.

I accused you of interfering with the feed from a sublink.

Proven not false.

 RC> As far as my responsibility goes, I sat here and watched Wayne SPAM no
 RC> less than 4 echoes with replies to messages that originated in only one
 RC> echo, for reasons he has yet to elaborate on, maybe its this delusion
 RC> and paranoia he speaks of?

If Wayne did anything wrong in any echo then that is for the moderators
to determine. It is not the job of a coordinator to set themselves up
as house of censorship.

The fact you say you watched him "SPAM" no less than 4 echoes shows
you have an unhealthy fixation with him. As far as i am aware Docsplace
has not of late recieved 4 moderators netmails about Wayne. Are you
now saying you took it upon youself to tamper with his mail? 

 RC> So for a one hour time frame on 12/15, docsplace was without this echo,
 RC> you missed 2 inbound messages, one of those messages that you missed
 RC> was from Jeff Smith to Wayne, asking him why he was spamming this echo
 RC> with messages from other echoes..

That is a lie. Wayne started complaining for a good three days about
his mail going missing and i noticed that Docsplace users had suddenly
stopped posting in this echo.

 RC> Oh and lets define SPAM.. Wayne wasnt taking messages from another echo
 RC> and replying to them all over, he was simply taking them as is and
 RC> forwarding them w/o comment.

Not your job Cassell. It is the job of the moderators to complain to
our sysop and not your job to cut our feed.

 RC> You already know that I was in contact with Ed and had Fidonews back on
 RC> within that hour, Ed also told you he agreed with my actions,
 RC> nevertheless, the 2 messages missed were inconsequential compared to
 RC> the ones Wayne perpetrated.

You contacted Ed Koon after you cut his feed when it became apparent
that complaints where going to come about your behavior.

Ed Koon took you at your word and banned Wayne from the backbone
and has since reversed that decision.

 MA> I have nothing to apologies to you about.

 RC> Do your homework next time.
 
What you didn't expect is that i would do my homework. You took
Ed Koon's trust and betrayed him. You allowed you distaste for
some of our users to cloud your judgment and compromised your 
responsibilities as a coordinator.

 
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