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Skriven 2006-12-24 00:19:00 av Dale Shipp
     Kommentar till en text av Michiel Van Der Vlist
Ärende: Re: The moderator here??
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 -=> On 12-23-06  11:55,  Michiel Van Der Vlist <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about The moderator here?? <=-

 DS>    The previous editors of fidonews were not users of Björn's system.

 MVDV> And you are sure they are not now? How can you be so sure?

  I can be sure that not all of them exist.  And I can be sure that some
  of the ones that do exist give other contact information for
  themselves.

 DS>    Who is to say that Phipps is not a real name?

 MVDV> I have yet to see a country that accepts a single word as 
 MVDV> an official name on a birth certificate.

  Your point is?  There is nothing that says that people can only use
  the "official name" that appears on their birth certificate.   The
  name I use is not the same as what appears on my birth certificate.
 
 DS>   It is obvious that Editors Emeriti is not a real name,

 MVDV> Is it? How can you be so sure?

   Because Björn said it was not -- he said it was a collective group of
   all the previous moderators of Fidonews.  You are grasping at straws.

 MVDV>>> RC17                    CELBLK17
 
 DS>>   CELLBLK17 is a regional echo,

 MVDV> Says who?
 
   Says the Elist.  And that is what the Elist is there for, to provide
   information such as that.

 DS>>  moderator position belongs to the person holding the office of RC17.

 MVDV> Says who?

   Says the Elist ....
 
 DS>   I did not know that, perhaps that is why the listing is about to be
 DS>   removed?

 MVDV> A more reasonable explanation for the "about to be removed" 
 MVDV> is that there was no MOD update in six month. In the 

   Same thing.

 MVDV> meantime it has been there for over six month. So the list
 MVDV> keeper does not generally check on dead persons.

  Of course not.  It accepts the information that is provided to it.

 MVDV> Then apparently yo have a different vesrion of the e-list than me.

 MVDV> http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/z.htm#Z1_ROUTING

 MVDV> Now which version is the authoritive one?

  I have the version that is officially sent out over the filebone each
  month.  What it has is consistent with that web page that you quoted,
  except that the web page is confused because of a format error in the
  listing.

 MVDV>> Wrong. As you have been told, 2:2/2 is the contact info.
 
 DS>    I doubt that it is.   If I sent a message to Zorch at 2:2/2, how
 DS>    would it get to him?

 MVDV> Why do you worry about that? Have you ever tried it?
 
 DS>   Ditto for Henk and many other previous editors.

 MVDV> Did you try it?

   I had no need to try it.

 DS>    However, my recollection of the discussion that took
 DS> place during the "Editors Emeriti" incident is that Björn included
 DS> *all* former editors in that group collection.

 MVDV> And of course - since this fitted your agenda - you took his word as
 MVDV> gospel. 

   Why would I have doubted that Björn did not mean what he said.

 MVDV> Well, my recollection is that Björn stated that mail
 MVDV> addressed to "Editors emeriti" at 2/2/2 *would* be 
 MVDV> delivered. So why do you now doubt his word?

   That was well after the argument started.
 
 DS>> AND they did not consider themselves to be moderators of the
 DS>> echo, they had all passed that task on to someone else.

 MVDV>> Irrelevant. There is no requirement for a comod to
 MVDV>> publically accept the position.

    Why are you bringing Co-moderators into the discussion.  The attempt
    was to list them as moderators.  The Elist does not have an entry
    for Co-moderators.  As you well know, if a person is listed in one
    of the moderator slots, then they are to be considered a moderator.
    If they do not wish to be considered as a moderator, then they
    should not be listed there.   For those situations, other places
    (e.g. the description) are appropriate.
 
                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) comcast (dot) net
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