Text 47508, 66 rader
Skriven 2007-01-15 17:40:27 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
  Kommentar till text 47501 av Torbjorn Mohn (2:211/37)
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Hello Torbjorn.

15 Jan 07 21:52, you wrote to me:

 >>> Still doesn't make him modretaor here. Shannon has put his name on
 >>> a list that means nothing here.
 >> Thats part of the confusion. Some Felten supporters say that Shannon
 >> is a co-moderator (But only of certain people). Some only recognize
 >> Felten as moderator. Some say that we are supposed to moderate
 >> ourselves. Some say that Felten should start moderating. Some say
 >> that they like the chaos and are content with matters as they are.

 TM> The confusion is only in Shannons head. No one else is confused here?
 TM> Shannon claims he is moderation z1 people, which we know is not true.

    Read what I stated above. If you refuse to consider that then look back
in this echo and read the messages about who supposedly is the moderator
here. So far the moderator is either Bjorn, Shannon, Bjorn and Shannon, or
the people of the echo. Bjorn has stated that the participants of this echo
are free to moderate themselves. Based on Bjorn's last response he would like
everyone else to do his job for him. Self moderation or moderating each other
obviously isn't working. The current condition of this echo clearly shows that.


 >> Seems to me that there needs to be some clarification by the
 >> moderator as to who IS responsible and for what. Everyone that is
 >> asked blames someone else for the problems that exist. Isn't it time
 >> that someone steps up and says regardless of any blame lets fix the
 >> problems. Seems to me that person should be the recognized
 >> moderator. If not Felten, who do you think IS responsible??

 TM> There is nothing to cxlarify. Bjølrn Felten is the moderator, anyone
 TM> saying something else is confusing the issue. That's the truth or
 TM> fatct as Shannon would have said.

    I also consider Bjorn the moderator here. But sadly I consider him
the moderator in name only due to the fact that he either can't or chooses
not to actually be the moderator here. Bjorn is the only one that can change
that situation.

 >> A wiseman once said.
 >> "If the moderator didn't do his/her job, then you obviously need
 >> another moderator." I agree with those sentiments.

 TM> Choosing a new moderator here will not change one tiny bit, you know
 TM> that, I know that, everone else knows that.

     You know that because you refuse to consider the posibility that there
may be someone else that can actually do the job or that there may be a
different way that actually works. If Bjorn's way of moderating actually worked
we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

 TM>  It's just the facts...
 TM> face it. If you don't like it, what's keeping you here?

     Because I give a damn. Why are you here?

 TM> Torbjorn

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