Text 48065, 126 rader
Skriven 2007-02-08 02:24:06 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
  Kommentar till text 48057 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
Ärende: Bj"rn is a fool, was: Four fools?
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 BF>> After having seen Fox News here in Thailand I'm even more convinced that
 BF>> Fox is more biased than BBC.

 JS>      I think Fox os one of the worst and I avoid watching them as much as
 JS> possible. Most news media has a certain amount of twist on the news that
 JS> they want you to know. What is worst is when the media deceives the public
 JS> instead of coloring or packaging the news for entertainment or ratings
 JS> points.

When BBC had a program about the American A 10 the shot and killed an
English soldier in Iraq 2003 they said that this isn't going to be broadcasted
in North America and so far I haven't heard a word about it on Fox. Talk about
"fair and balanced" news as they say on Fox. Then I hear retired American
generals talking about "free speach" in the US and thay they can die for that
right...... This is the worst case of double standard I've heard in a long
time.
I've even read a transcripton of the conversation with the A 10 at that moment
on a Swedish news-site.

When they talked about the hurricane in Florida the program leader asked
how people can go on living after a thing like that he got the answer that USA
is the best country on earth to live in and they are Americans. When another
one said that shit happends all over the world and people rise after disasters
no matter in what country they live in he was shouted down an the interview
was over.
Wonder if the other once haven't heard of the Tsunami and that people have
rised after that here in Thailand and the other places.
USA lost 20 in that hurricane and how many died in the Tsunami? 200 00,
300 000?

But the austronaut that should kill her rival have been all over Fox for 3
days now and they are speculating like hell what happend to her.

Wonder when those who say that Fox is a good, fair and balanced news
program will understand that they are being indoctrinated?

  st>>> What's really fantastic is that we live in a country were people are
 st>>> free to be themselves, no matter how freaky or weird we think they are.
 st>>> They have jobs, live and go through their own lives without worrying
 st>>> about government oppression or being jailed because they are different.

See above.
Of course the austronaut is set free after that murder attempt. She's a
celebrity
and those can do whatever they like in USA.

 st>>> THAT is what is so great about this country....

Sure.

 BF>> And you think that you're alone with that? I believe that every country
 BF>> in Europe have it like that. Actually I think we are even better. We
 BF>> don't put a blur at small childrens asses when they appear in TV as you
 BF>> do. We can even show a womans breast.

 JS>      I think that that is somehow supposed to protect our morals and the
 JS> impressionability of children. I can only speak for myself but I wouldn't
 JS> give seeing a babies/toddlers butt a second thought. It wouldn't be an
 JS> issue until it is made an issue by it's censorship. The same principal
 JS> holds true for children IMHO. We as adults don't give children nearly
 JS> enough credit for inteligence IMO. Again many/most children wouldn't think
 JS> something is supposedly wrong until we as adults treat it as wrong and
 JS> make an unnessesary issue of it.

You MAKE an issue about it when not even a baby can be shown naked.
Hide it and it will be a mystrious and the wachoes just have to find out what's
blured out.

 JS>      Suggestion and presentation has alot to do with it too. Look at some
 JS> of the GGW (Girls Gone Wild) television ads. Nothing is really shown but
 JS> ALOT
 JS> is suggested. So much so that I find it somewhat inappropiate. Now don't
 JS> get me wrong. I enjoy the beauty of a women's body as much as any other
 JS> guy. I just don't need it shoved in my face.

Haven't a clue what GGW is so I can't comment on that.

 JS>      On second thought......<g>

:-)

 st>>> But, when someone states they don't like "Americans" -- what they are
 st>>> really saying is they don't like Muslims, Christians, Chinese, Japanese,
 st>>> Colombians, Swedish, English, French, Spanish, Africans, the Wicken, the
 st>>> Atheists, or any one of the incredible multitude of people of all
 st>>> religions and all walks of life that make up this country.

 BF>> I don't think anyone have said that they don't like Americans, only those
 BF>> who are the loudest and behave like assholes and misterpret everything
 BF>> they read and publish it on their website. :-o I know of a lot of very
 BF>> nice Americans too.

 JS>      Being ignorant, biased, prejudice, hateful or an asshole isn't linked
 JS> or dependant on one's nationality. People like that come in all colors and
 JS> nationalities.

That's what I'm saying too but Shannon haven't understand that.

 st>>> I'm part Irish, part German, part Apache, and part mutt.....  I'm not a
 st>>> "purebred" anything... I'm an American and I'm both proud and humbled to
 st>>> be a citizen of what is and has become a great and free nation.

So free so it isn't possible to tell the truth about the killing of English
soldiers?

 BF>> Well, I'm proud of being a Swede too but not to the fanatic state that
 BF>> I'm willing to kill or to be killed for it unless there is someone coming
 BF>> to invade my country. Then I will do as they are doing in Iraq, I will
 BF>> defend myself whatever it takes, perhaps even become a suicidebomber. Who
 BF>> knows.

 JS>      IMHO, if we (Americans) are there to help Irag on a path of their
 JS> choice that is one thing. If we are there to dictate or direct their
 JS> future down a particular path of our choice then that is another matter
 JS> entirely.

I think I know what you mean but the generals on Fox says that they aren't
getting the help from the Iraqie military and the police that they need to win
this
war so I wonder who's poilicy that rules. Should it be done the American way or
the Iraq way. And think about if the two muslim groups went togheter against
the US.....

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