Text 1037, 84 rader
Skriven 2007-05-06 09:09:40 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
   Kommentar till text 1017 av Matt Bedynek (1:106/1)
Ärende: mark lewis
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Hello Matt!

05 May 07 23:29, you wrote to me:

 RC>> Yes, Herman looks up to you and respects you.

 MB> I hear Dan Ceppa looks up to and respects you.

He looks up to everyone, respects none.

 RC>> .. Hermans stunt had far more theoretical ramifications.

 MB> This statement really bothers me because it strongly highlights the
 MB> hypocracy in fidonet.  It did not seem to concern you when fidonet
 MB> nodes password each other out.

You cite a notable incident between Roy and Michiel, I have seen no indications
that it became widespread, nor has it been shown why Michiel had the need to
connect with Roy.

That incident didnt bother me because of the history between the 2 sysops.

 MB>   It did not concern you that someone
 MB> posted from a nonexistent node number.  It does not appear to concern
 MB> you that one such node has forged messages in the past.  It does not
 MB> seem to concern you that people impersonate moderators in echoes
 MB> posting rules and such.

All rendered moot when they were met with similiar responses and then this
latest forgery.

If you feel I shouldnt be jumping on Herman for his forgery, shouldnt you be
jumping on Herman for giving Roy's messages the time of day?

 MB> I could see and share your concern about Herman's act but the sole
 MB> fact that you have turned a blind eye to members of your zone for
 MB> doing far worse actions makes procecution of this one act impossible
 MB> on your part.  Anything you say will be interpreted as biased and
 MB> hypocritical.

You cant take Roy's entire colorful past and indict him with it, while at the
same time using it to acquit Herman.

If you had a history of causing car wrecks on your record and one day you
become the victim of one, the person at fault does not get a automatic acquital
based on your past.

 RC>> Roy continues to post them because it gets the desired reaction
 RC>> from Herman you forget that his retaliations dont make his
 RC>> position any better than Roys, ..

 MB> So what do you plan to do about the forged moderator postings?  Does
 MB> it even bother you?  Would it bother you any more if the moderator was
 MB> a Z1 moderator and/or the moderator was someone that you did not
 MB> necessarily dislike?

In context, Roys moderator postings had no ill effects on no one but Herman.

Go back and look.

Dont blame Roy for Feltens unwillingness to moderate him, Felten wont dare
approach Roy's uplink, so what do you expect me to do about it?

 MB> In the old fidonet, where people didn't let their personal agendas
 MB> affect decisions (or perhaps they were just better at hiding it) Roy
 MB> and Herman would both been booted from fn_sysop for a time. But being
 MB> that Z1 nodes will not comply with a Z2 moderators request and Z2
 MB> nodes will not comply with a Z1 moderator's requests I doubt it will
 MB> ever happen.  The people to blame for this problem are all of those
 MB> who turn a blind eye to such actions.

Yes and you know Roy wont listen to any of us in this regard.

This leaves one other person to be policed, he is in Z2 and he refuses to
ignore Roy as well.

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