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Skriven 2008-03-29 15:50:10 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
  Kommentar till text 13686 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
Ärende: Thought crime...again
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Hello Björn.

29 Mar 08 07:59, you wrote to me:

 JS>>>>  Not to rehash old topics

 BF>>> Then, why do you....?

 JS>>      Has the moderator situation changed recently?

 BF> Where have you been if you have to ask?

Umm... I guessed you missed the point of my question.


 BF>>> I was wondering how long it would take until you entered the
 BF>>> scene, the man who are so against diatribes. And then you wonder
 BF>>> why so many in here are anti-American......

 JS>> Give it a rest Björn.

 BF> The same to you.

    Is that the best that you can come up with? How about actually
responding to my questions?

 JS>> Can't you write one message where you don't
 JS>> feel the burning desire to use the term "Anti-American"?

 BF> Can't you write one message where you don't feel the burning desire to
 BF> bash Felten?


    Yes I can and do. You on the other hand don't seem to have that ability.


 BF>  You haven't been posting too much latly but as soon as
 BF> you saw someone kicking Feltens ass you were the first to join.


    Then you need to pay better attention Björn. It is true that I don't
post as often as you do. But then I try for more quality than quantity.


 JS>> Why are you fixated on HAVING to dwell on that?

 BF> Why are you fixated on HAVING to jump on every bandwagon that goes
 BF> against Felten?

     You are unable to answer simple questions aren't you? Try responding
to the questions I have asked.


 JS>> Is that what your whole existence revolves around?

 BF> Is that what YOUR whole existence revolves around? To bash Felten?

 <sigh> See above.

 JS>> At the end of the day do you ask yourself "Have I
 JS>> preached enough hate and discontent today?"

 BF> Your post to Felten wasn't exactly a love letter either.

     Offering an opinion on his moderating style was neither a love
or hate letter. I don't dislike Felten. I dislike and diagree with his
moderating abilities.

    You on the other hand can't answer simply questions and seem obsessed
with posting messages that preach hate and dislike for people. You don't
single out a particular aspect that you don't agree with. You simply
express hate for everything. In fact the topic of discussion doesn't even
have to be about America at all for you to try to inject your anti-American
comments. You offer comments, opinions, and conclusions without having
the knowledge or having done the research to support them. Which simply
makes you look like just someone that simply needs to run their mouth.

 JS>>>> but Björn has on more than one occasion
 JS>>>> stated that he is content with this being a general chat echo
 JS>>>> when there isn't a Fidonews related topic being discussed. Also
 JS>>>> that he has turned over the moderating of this echo to the
 JS>>>> users. They (The users) are to decide what is allowed and when
 JS>>>> enough is enough. The problem with that is the only thing that
 JS>>>> ends up happening is that people from each side tell the other
 JS>>>> side to STFU. End result? Same crap, differant day.

 BF>>> How many times have we heard this?

 JS>>      That will depend on how long the problem continues.

 BF> And on how long you're going to dwell on it.

    You would have to ask Felten on that.


 JS>>>>      Personally I disagree with that attitude as I see it as a
 JS>>>> way of him saying that while he intends to remain moderator in
 JS>>>> name. He no longer wants to deal with the responsibility of the
 JS>>>> job. Hence he has allegedly given the job to the users.

 BF>>> And this.....

 BF>>> Welcome to the bashing whatever bunch.
 BF>>> It is easier to see the grain in others eyes than the log in
 BF>>> your own.

 JS>>     Are you becoming more self aware?

 BF> I've been aware all the time unlike you.

    Like you would have a clue.

 BF>  My anti-American rants are to show you that Americans aren't any
 BF> better than anyone else

    We are all people of the same planet there Björn. All made of the same
stuff. All subject to the same potential for good and bad in life and in
deed.

 BF>  on this godforsaken earth

     That might be a factor in your behavior.

 BF>  as you seems to think like with that

     Do you really have any clue on what others REALLY think? Or do only
believe what you see on the news and in the tabloids?

 BF> you worship every single life,

     Yes life is special Björn. I am sorry that you don't think so. That
may be yet another factor to explain your mindset.

 BF>  even unborn but haven't a problem with that 50 000
 BF> ambulances every year can't go to the nearest hospital so the patients
 BF> dies during the transport. The answer I got was that 50k ambulance
 BF> transports are such a low number compared with 300 million inhabitants
 BF> so what. I just can't understand how you can turn your coat so
 BF> fast just because the wind blows the American way. Let me tell you, a
 BF> father here that have raped and abused his now 17 yo daughter hundreds
 BF> of times and now is in psychiatric care have by a court been given
 BF> back the custody of her although she wants it to be changed to her
 BF> stepfather. That is just as sick as using entrapment that you
 BF> Americans love so much but I never hear anyone saying anything against
 BF> it. What's done the American way is always right. Right now I heard on
 BF> the news with one ear that every American soldier that was accused of
 BF> killing innocent wiman and children in Iraq in the beginning of the
 BF> war was set free. Now it's only their leader left to stand trial and I
 BF> wouldn't be surprised if even he walks free and what kind of signals
 BF> do you think that sends around the world? Stop defend every
 BF> wrongdoings done by Americans and stop jumping on Felten as soon as it
 BF> suits you and we might come to an agreement. Until that you will
 BF> see me post whatever I like about America.

     I am truly sorry that you have formed that opinion of people and
of life there Björn. I and I would think others see the same world that
you do Björn and we don't see the world or a particular country as all
bad. Your conclusions above are wrong on several levels Björn. But the
basic reason is that they are based on a level of hate and dislike for
life. That and the fact that I see you sitting in front of your television
with your tabloid in your hand. Drawing and forming your conclusions of
life and the world on what you see and read.

    Have you actually gotten to know some of the people that you have
expressed your hatred of? Have you actually experienced some of the things
that you seem to hate so much?  Have you actually gone to and experienced
some of the places that you seem to hate? Based on your own statements it
doesn't look like you have.

    You simply hate because you want to. Which is sad.


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Jeff

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