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Skriven 2008-05-24 08:31:34 av Joe Schweier (1:275/400)
  Kommentar till text 15941 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
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 MvdV> Hello Joe,

 MvdV> On Saturday May 24 2008 06:30, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>>> Freedom is everyone offered the same choices.

 JS>> Where the heck did you get this from??  Freedom is not getting the
 JS>> same choice as others do...

 MvdV> What is the difference with what I wrote?


Freedom is having the right to make a choice... people make good and bad ones
everyday.  And you live and die by them.

The problem with freedom is that sometimes people make choices that limit
themselves. Opportunity is not a god-given right it's something that some one
does with it.

There are some countries that are given the opportunity for freedom and free
elections then vote in people who keep them down... You can lead a voter to the
polls but U can't make them smart.

It's the choices you make...



 JS>>  Maybe Socialism or Communism you get that.

 MvdV> In the known implementations od communism, there were
 MvdV> priviliged people who got choices that the common people
 MvdV> did not get.

 JS>> Freedom is the ability to make "YOUR" choice... HAHAHA  Not just
 JS>> select from the ones presented to you.

 MvdV> So you can choose to visit Mars?

Yes U can... Here in the US anyway... That's my poit. People here have the
choice to deam and excell... if there's a way to get their there will be people
waiting in line to get there.  And the beauty of it all... it'll be that
dreamer who will find a way to get their... More than likely an american.


JS>> This is what I love about the US... "ALL" the people that come have
 JS>> the freedom of being wealthy or not... your choice.

 MvdV> So why is not everyone wealthy then?

Some people chose not to... simple enough isn't it. We are a product of the
choices we make.

 JS>> There are millions of ethnic people there that are wealthy millions
 JS>> that are not... millions of whites who have money and millions that
 JS>> don't.

 MvdV> Do people *choose* to be poor in your country?

Sometimes I think so... When given a choice to be free some people vote in
parties that are restrictive.  Their choice to do that... Their choice to sit
there and do nothing too.  For example I think the people of Mexico should hold
their leaders feet to the fire and make them accountable rather than sneeking
into the US to find work. It's this apathy with the Mexican citizens that's
keeping them down.

Find a successful country and do what they do... and keep doing it until you
get a desired result.


 JS>> The only thing that separates those that have and those that don't, in
 JS>> the US anyways, is the person's individual choice not to persue those
 JS>> things.

 JS>> Because ANYONE...can do make it in the US if they deside to.

 MvdV> So why does not everyone make it? Did they choose that?

Because some people chose not to... and act consistantly with thhat desire.

 JS>> Ask Opra.

 MvdV> Who's Opra?

A famus black woman in the US... makes Billions... is black and a woman. 
Looked past here challanges and when for gold. She started with nothing and has
everything she could ever want.

She shose to do it... her actions were consistant with her desire... and she
repeated that process until she was got her desired result.

 MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

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