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Skriven 2008-06-01 10:27:16 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
  Kommentar till text 16518 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Misinformation
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BF>> Why is it then not allowed to clean chicken with it here?

 RB> Panic and ignorance, the same as with the CO2 hype, where you can often
 RB> read that the gas is "poisonous". Laypersons don't distinguish between
 RB> carbon _mon_oxide (poisonous) and carbon _di_oxide (non-poisonous but not
 RB> breathable, in the same sense as nitrogen).

I hear you but I don't buy that to 100%.

BF>> And why did they evacuated the local public bath when one of those flasks
BF>> started to leak?

 RB> Because that's pure chlorine gas that _is_ poisonous and corrosive to the
 RB> lungs. Incidentally, concentrated sodium hypochlorite is very alkaline and
 RB> corrosive, but at the dilution used for pools harmless. Also, I may have
 RB> made a mistake in the cation... I think they use calcium hypochlorite, not
 RB> sodium hypochlorite in pools because the calcium hypochlorite is more
 RB> stable in storage.

An overdose of anything isn't good so why use it in food.

BF>> Since we don't use chloorine there must be other ways of disinfect it from
BF>> salmonella.

 RB> Either that, or there is no disinfection here. In the former case, it
 RB> would be wise to find out precisely what is being used and what negative
 RB> effects _it_ has (anything with _any_ effect has both positive _and_
 RB> negative effects). In the latter case, better cook your chicken well done.
 RB> Incidently, in Germany the authorities caution against letting chicken
 RB> thaw in it's own juice for precisely the reason that the meat can become
 RB> contaminated with salmonella. Maybe that doesn't tell you anything, but it
 RB> sure does me.

It isn't used here and we don't have salmonella but I haven't a clue what we
use instead.

BF>> Too much of either isn't good.

 RB> Too much of _anything_ is not too good, to paraphrase a Disney song of
 RB> long ago. But panic and misinformation are bad advisors. Remember
 RB> "dihydrogen monoxide".

Nope.
I read about a guy in...England....who almost died from drinking too much
water.

BF>> So: http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/chlorine/basics/facts.asp is not true at
BF>> all?

 RB> Are you not aware of the fact that there is a difference between chlorine
 RB> gas and the dilute solutions of chlorine in water, for example in swimming
 RB> pools? I might also mention that a lot of city drinking water is
 RB> chlorinated as well. Doesn't taste that great, but nobody has died from it
 RB> yet.

How many % is it? And how many % i the cleaning solution for chickens?

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