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Text 22288, 80 rader
Skriven 2008-10-20 11:04:44 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
  Kommentar till text 22230 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
Ärende: Legal Strictions
========================
Roy Witt wrote to Robert Bashe on Sunday October 19 2008 at 14:29:

RW>>> That is what 'Mein Kamph' is all about. Those aren't facts, just the
RW>>> rantings of a madman.

RB>> Unfortunately no.

RW> I think so. It was written before he ever came to politics.

No. It was written when he was in prison after the 1934 uprising in Munich,
dictated - if I remember correctly - to Rudolf Hess. Hitler had been in
politics since the late 1920s, and after the 1934 uprising was given a "slap on
the wrist" by sympathetic judges who themselves were anything but politically
neutral.

RW> Had he lost his political goals, there may not have been anything more
RW> to it.

Had Germany not been dragged into the depression and had the Versailles treaty
in addition, the Nazis would probably never have amounted to much, but the
facts are what the are. Remember the USA and the election of 1933. If Rossevelt
hadn't become president, but rather some really radical instead - think of Huey
Long - just imagine what could have happened in the States.

RB>> And actually I was thinking about things like "Das Mythos des 20.
RB>> Jahrhunderts" by Alfred Rosenberg.

RW> Is there an English translation?

I don't know, but you could try

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_the_Twentieth_Century

RB>>>> You can "prove" anything you want as long as you base your
RB>>>> arguments on belief and not hard facts.

RW>>> Great! You do believe that Adolph was right then and all of his
RW>>> madness was granted to him by God.

Are you nuts?

RB>> Try not to ignore the quotation marks in my sentences the next time.

RW> Quotation marks are used by many here to emphasize their words.

I either write capitals or use an underscore before and after the words. That's
emphasis. Quotation marks, for me, are for quotations.

RB>> You're waffling.

RW> Only Belgums waffle.

I used the American term since I thought you'd be familiar with it.

RW> Why would you blindly obey anything?

RB>> (the Germans say "Kadavergehorsam" and mean that every order,
RB>> regardless of how crazy, evil or downright criminal, MUST be obeyed).

RW> That's German thinking for you.

And American, and Russian and a lot of others. Any old port in a storm, and
when your neck is on the block, it's always the other guy's fault.

[Would it have been better to Hang Calley and scatter the ashes?]
RB>> Actually, I think it would have. It would have shown that right is
RB>> right and wrong is wrong, regardless of nationality.

RW> That it would have. Perhaps then we wouldn't have seen the abuse of
RW> Iraqi prisoners in Iraq. But then, the moral values of our youth have
RW> been corrupted by modern technology.

I Just don't know, Roy. I swore many years ago I'd never rant against "modern
youth" because we did some pretty nasty things too when I was a kid. But
sometimes the temptation is pretty hard to resist.

Cheers, Bob

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