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Text 228, 87 rader
Skriven 2007-04-23 21:08:06 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
    Kommentar till text 209 av LEE LOFASO (1:123/140)
Ärende: Shootings
=================
Hello LEE.

21 Apr 07 21:55, you wrote to me:

 LL> Hello Jeff,

 >>MV> It *would* be the case if guns were outlawed.

 >>JS> Outlawing guns isn't the answer. The guns are not the problem. The
 >>JS> people are the problem.

 >>LL> Handguns are made for one purpose, and for one purpose only -
 >>LL> to kill people.

 >>JS> Wrong Lee. I usually will have a handgun with me while hunting. In
 >>JS> fact there are a number of handguns that are legal to hunt both
 >>JS> small and large game within my state.

 >>LL> Just because you use or have used a handgun for a purpose other
 >>LL> than what a handgun is or was designed for does not mean that
 >>LL> handguns are designed for purposes other than killing people.  I
 >>LL> also find it highly unlikely, or at least very difficult to
 >>LL> believe, that anybody who has ever bought a handgun did so for
 >>LL> purposes other than killing people.

 JS>> In the acquisition of the handguns that I have the thought of
 JS>> killing someone was not a deciding factor. In fact two of the
 JS>> handguns are legal hunting handguns.

 LL> Most folks who buy handguns do so for reasons of "self-defense".

     In many cases I think you are right. Although I also think or at least
hope that in most of those cases the person acquired the handgun without the
thought of actually killing someone. Then there those that bought a handgun
for other purposes.


 LL>  IOW, they buy a handgun with the intent of killing somebody.  Of
 LL> course, most folks would only want to kill somebody if that somebody
 LL> were threatening physical harm to them and/or their loved ones.

     Let me get one statement out of the way. I own handguns. My primary
reason in having them was not to kill someone. But in a last case scenario
when there was no other way or altenatives. I would use a hangun to protect
my children or family from death.


 >>JS> I remember one year coming across a pissed off bear in the woods.
 >>JS> And the rifle was not reachable. I did have a 44 mag handgun with
 >>JS> me. It was not my intention to hunt for bear and was content to
 >>JS> have been able to scare the bear off. Which also allowed the
 >>JS> chance to grab some clean shorts. <g>

 >>LL> Your tall tale of scaring a bear is just that - a tall tale.

 JS>> I was there Lee you were not.  Therefore your comment is
 JS>> meaningless.

 LL> It is doubtful that you could have stopped a charging bear with a
 LL> handgun, given it would take more than one shot and so very little
 LL> time to do it in.  FWIW, it would take at least a .45 caliber to
 LL> do it.  And probably a full clip, with direct hits.  Won't happen
 LL> with a 9mm, even with a full clip, hitting all shots.

     The gun that I had with me was a .44 magnum with a 6.5 inch barrel
holding six rounds.  I'm thinking it would depend on where I hit the bear
in order to drop the animal. I am happy in not having to have had the need
to find out.

 LL> As for scaring a bear, that is quite easy to do.  Honk your horn.
 LL> Even if the animal climbs on top the hood of your car.


     Hmm... I honked my gun. Worked for me. <g>

 LL> --Lee


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Jeff

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