Text 25147, 88 rader
Skriven 2008-12-17 22:58:04 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
  Kommentar till text 25114 av Michiel Van Der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Qui Sa Dit?
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Hello Michiel,

>MvdV>That the bbs is in zone 3 is very relevant and
>MvdV>actually it is the only thing that is relevant.

>BF>It sure is, should there ever be a P4 complaint or similar, but
>BF>that's hopefully not the case here.

MVDV>You are lucky that Lee recognises *you* as moderator and is willing
MVDV>to comply.

I have no problem complying with legitimate requests from Bjorn
Felten, as he is the sole legitimate moderator of this echo.

>MvdV>So it is and should be the zone where the bbs is nodelisted
>MvdV>that determines jurisdiction.

>BF>Negatory (in this case)! And that's exactly why I -- reluctantly -
>BF>have not updated the rules to mirror the agreement of Ross' and mine.
>BF>I still am the sole and only dictator... ahem, sorry... moderator
>BF>here, just in case some policy hugger should try a stunt like the
>BF>above.

MVDV>Well, I wish you good luck....

I do not recognize Ross Cassell as moderator of this echo.
Furthermore, I do not recognize any "secret deal" Bjorn Felten
may have made with Ross Cassell as being legitimate.

ECHOPOL1

II. 12. OPEN ACCESS CONFERENCE: This is a non-restricted conference
open to all users who are willing to follow the posted conference rules.

RULES FOR THE FIDONEWS ECHO

Policy: The Echopol1 policy applies.

Availability: Every sysop is encouraged to make this echo available
to any user, that's interested in reading and writing in it.

Given the rules of the fidonews echo, as posted by Bjorn Felten,
I consider any and all "secret deals" between Bjorn Felten and Ross
Cassell as being not only invalid, but also in violation of both
Echopol1 (II. 12. cited above) and P4 (Thou shalt not excessively
annoy others).

>BF>Please remember, I *am* a fully fledged politician now, even
>BF>running for the EP in the 2009 election,

MVDV>Great!

It seems Bjorn has a very tall mountain to climb.  But I wish him luck.

MVDV>To bad I can not vote for you. I can and will vote in the 2009 EP
MVDV>election but European unity has not progressed to the point that I
MVDV>can vote for any European candidate. I can only vote for Dutch
MVDV>candidates....  :-(

The Pirate Party is fairly new in Sweden.  And even newer in the USA.
But all political parties have to start somewhere.  Some grow into being
major political parties, such as the Republican Party in the USA.  But
unlike the USA, which relies on a two-party system, Sweden and Europe
use a parliamentary system.

>MvdV>He is just using the means available to him.

>BF>Personally I really don't think he (Lee Lofaso) is. At least not
>BF>for the reason you suggest. But then again I've always been a sucker
>BF>for giving everyone the benefit of a doubt...

MVDV>So am I. Once or twice it got me the short end of the stick....

When a moderator posts the rules for an echo, I expect that moderator
to be honest about those rules.  And that means no "secret deals" with
others, or doing things behind the scenes.

MVDV>It also gave me a lot of Xmas cards.. ;-)

It got George W. Bush two shoes...

--Lee


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